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I don't understand why ICE would need access to Medicaid data. You need to be a citizen or lawful permanent resident to access that program, not to mention all the other additional criteria. The idea of illegal immigrants somehow bypassing all the checks and balances successfully en masse feels a little silly to me.

Just a quick check of the official website to try and get onto Medicaid in WA state shows that it requires a social security number and citizenship information: https://www.wahealthplanfinder.org/us/en/health-coverage/get...

>>keving+(OP)
There's something called "Qualified Non-citizens", federal funding is prohibited for non-citizens but states could optionally cover it

https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/enrollment-strategies/down...

so ultimately there is some source of non-citizen data to be gleaned

>>keving+(OP)
They have a pamphlet available one more click away from the link you shared that gives detailed information on how undocumented immigrants can get free/reduced-cost health care, and what all of their options are: https://www.wahealthplanfinder.org/content/dam/wahbe-assets/...

>>keving+(OP)
Some states have different requirements for undocumented persons. Most states permit medicaid for emergency situations. Some permit it for pregnant people.

>>keving+(OP)
> I don't understand why ICE would need access to Medicaid data.

It’s a class war. Once they’ve run out of immigrants to harass and deport, they’ll be going after the poor.

>>arrose+P2
They are:

- significantly raising taxes on imported goods - letting ACA subsidies expire - reducing access to medicaid - allowing medical debt on credit reports - resuming collections/garnishment for student loans - reducing options for student loan repayment / forgiveness

they're going after the poor

>>promet+d1
This is not what the federal website for Medicaid says, though.

>>giantg+v1
Are there any states where Medicaid funds "emergency situations" for people who are not otherwise eligible for Medicaid? I've never heard of that. EMTALA requires hospitals to treat anyone in emergency situations, but doesn't to my knowledge provide a mechanism to pay for those treatments. The patient still gets billed and hospital likely just doesn't get paid.

>>yakz+E5
> they're going after the poor

That's just a bonus feature

The tariffs serve 2 purposes:

  1. They can replace income taxes and protect the wealthy (per their reasoning)
  2. They are a tool for power over other countries and a mechanism to compel them to pay personal tribute to The King of America™

I would love to be proven wrong because I'm hating this timeline.

>>giantg+v1
My understanding from reading the federal website is that this would not be Medicaid, it would be a different program. So they would not be in the Medicaid database, right?

>>arrose+P2
The important thing is they go after someone.

>>keving+L5
Couple of notes: Medicaid DOES cover emergency services for undocumented immigrants, to the tune of 16.2 billion dollars during the Biden administration. (Reference: https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/cbo_on_medicaid_for_i...)

Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it isn't happening. From a May 25, 2025 article on the official CMS website: "The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) announced today increased federal oversight to stop states from misusing federal Medicaid dollars to cover health care for individuals who are in the country illegally. Under federal law, federal Medicaid funding is generally only available for emergency medical services for noncitizens with unsatisfactory immigration status who would otherwise be Medicaid-eligible, but some states have pushed the boundaries, putting taxpayers on the hook for benefits that are not allowed."

From this article: https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cms-increasing-o...

>>keving+(OP)
Lots of people with no papers buy social security numbers so they can work legit jobs- and you could presumably get benefits too. Presumably they're looking for people who don't make sense- receiving benefits in two states, live in Minnesota but get benefits in Arizona, that sort of thing.

>>promet+we
Emergency Medicaid is provided due to EMTALA passed in 1986. There's nothing illegal about it.

Both of those sources are just bullshit propaganda. There are no 'open borders'. You're just being manipulated.

They also are really poor about citing evidence for their claims. The best thing they've got is a vague '124 percent more' with no real figures, and 'some states have pushed boundaries'.

If they want to tighten policy around what qualifies as emergency care then be my guest. The rest of this is just pushing a bullshit narrative.

>>epakai+Xn
I didn't say anything about emergency medicaid being illegal. What I did was present evidence that illegal immigrants do, indeed, use Medicaid funds in the form of emergency care, and I presume those are the records that are now being reviewed by ICE. Your original claim was that illegal immigrants don't get Medicaid, but you neglected to consider emergency medicaid funds.

>>kloone+wj
I live in AZ and your example is awful because we're literally full up on Minnesota snowbirds 6 months out of the year.

>>pstuar+h8
I think it might even be more boring and straightforward than that.

Get power => cause market instability, make trades and bets on volatility (or have your friends do it) => offshore your gains

>>keving+(OP)
Several blue states expanded their medicaid programs to allow illegals. This was with the intention to pay for it with state dollars instead of federal dollars.

Some states even allow legal temporary visa visitors like students to sign up for their state level funded medicaid. NY is constitutionally required to do so.

ICE however is making a play to obtain all of that state level data.

>>pksebb+Pp
The instability also damages trust in the US which loss of trust has its own economic and geopolitical fallout, so big wins for the Putins of the world.

>>pstuar+h8
You forgot the third purpose which is market manipulation so that they can make huge profits in the stock market for themselves and their friends whenever they feel like it.

>>keving+(OP)
Finding illegal family members of enrollees.

>>thomas+66
I don't think the funds get used. My understanding is that medicaid is administered by the states and can be expanded (at state expense). So the people covered by the expansion are still in the system.

>>epakai+Xn
lets even just take him at his word. $16.2B, we are now about to spend 144b to stop that. very smart.

>>keving+(OP)
A lot of states evidently give Medicaid to illegal aliens as well. ICE wants this data to track down those persons. I feel it's illegal and overreach, but Congress has turned into a rubber stamp for Trump and just sitting on their thumbs, albeit some have furrowed brows and "concerns". None of them do anything though. Congress should be the main power in Washington, not our new King in Orange.

>>arrose+P2
brown people and LGBTQ are next. It's so obvious that it hurts my brain that people can't see it.