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1. Middle+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-16 23:10:20
6" doesn't register as small to me at all lol. The HTC 8X was 4.3" and that was a "normal" sized phone for me.

I used the Palm Phone (PVG100) (3.3" screen) (basically the size of a credit card) [ https://www.ricklohre.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/dsc_097... ] as long as I could until it became too slow to use as software got slower and increasingly battery-hungry and I had to give it up last year.

Right now I have a Soyes S10Max, which has a 3.5" screen (same screen size as the original iPhone), but it's kinda chunky. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRZ47T53?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_...

The specs are more than strong enough to handle whatever I need on a daily basis. But I miss the slimmer size of the Palm Phone.

Right now I've pre-ordered this phone https://aiphor.com/products/bluefox-nx1-4-0-android-smartpho... with the 8gigram+128gig storage capacity. Has an even stronger cpu than the Soyes, but I am slightly worried about the resolution of 540x1168px because some elements may end up overlapping.

Even though it's 4", it has a tiny bezel so it's only slightly bigger than the Palm Phone, although a bit thicker cuz of a bigger battery. But still relatively slim, especially compared to the Soyes.

Front comparison: https://preview.redd.it/dtwnubx05scf1.png?width=3840&format=...

https://preview.redd.it/s2391amd7hbf1.png?width=320&crop=sma...

Will see!

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2. froste+t8[view] [source] 2025-07-17 00:21:44
>>Middle+(OP)
At $138 I can't imagine that the Bluefox NX1 will perform very well.

(By the way from some reason aiphor.com automatically redirects me to google.com unless I disable Javascript.)

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3. Middle+ba[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 00:38:18
>>froste+t8
The Soyes S10Max performs fine with 8 gigs of ram and a slightly slower mobile CPU. The most intensive thing I do on it is probably video call with people on FB Messenger or Telegram (or I guess load TicketMaster, but even my gf's expensive iPhone struggles with that one lmao), and it does that fine.

But I'll write a review on reddit once I've used it for a week or two.

No clue on aiphor.com, webdevs (or their managers) love javascript lol

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4. dannyf+fb[view] [source] 2025-07-17 00:48:07
>>Middle+(OP)
Do these little phones work well in the US?
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5. Middle+3j[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 02:10:01
>>dannyf+fb
They seem to work fine on T-Mobile. I hear the Palm Phone had some issue with Verizon where it only worked as a "companion phone" and I hear AT&T limits what phones are allowed somehow, but I cannot speak to those things.

They only have 4G rather than 5G. This has not bothered me but perhaps it would bother others.

6. jbaber+5j[view] [source] 2025-07-17 02:10:21
>>Middle+(OP)
I, too, used a PVG100 until it died. The "juicepack" battery doubled the thickness, but it still fit in my pocket. Now I've got a Motorola Razr. I figure the only way companies will give me a small phone if it folds.
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7. jbaber+ej[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 02:11:16
>>dannyf+fb
PVG 100 worked great with my carrier.
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8. Middle+4k[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 02:19:37
>>jbaber+5j
I tried out the Razr and Z Flip 4 at a store but I thought they were too hard to use while closed and way too big when open.

If you check /r/smallphones I'll post a review of the NX1 in a couple months (or whenever I get it + a week or two). It looks like the closest spiritual successor to the Palm Phone (although the single button on the foot with multiple actions will probably never be beat)

9. notato+Jo[view] [source] 2025-07-17 03:18:29
>>Middle+(OP)
you have to compare the actual phone sizes, not the screen sizes. bezels have gotten smaller.

the article's "small phone" benchmark with a 5.4" screen is almost the same size in every dimension as your benchmark of the HTC 8x

https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/HTC-8XT,Apple-iPhone-...

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10. jaunty+No[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 03:20:12
>>froste+t8
Doesn't sound stellar, but 2x A75 and 6x A55 is probably not the worst experience? Helios G81. 12nm process. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mediatek-Helio-G81-Ultra-Proce...

An even slightly more mid-range spin on this would be very very viable.

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11. Middle+tp[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 03:26:42
>>notato+Jo
>you have to compare the actual phone sizes, not the screen sizes. bezels have gotten smaller.

This is true, and it's hard to fully assess without a tool like you linked, which is pretty neat.

>the article's "small phone" benchmark with a 5.4" screen is almost the same size in every dimension as your benchmark of the HTC 8x

But as mentioned, I don't consider the 8X to be small. It's a standard-sized phone in my eyes.

12. mnmals+WP[view] [source] 2025-07-17 08:31:55
>>Middle+(OP)
Thanks for all the interesting links, the bluefox-nx1-specifically looks interesting to me. Do you have any information how are handling the new EU law, which requires 5 years of security updates? https://single-market-economy.ec.europa.eu/news/new-eu-rules...
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13. keyrin+8Y[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 10:00:34
>>Middle+ba
I think performance requirements depend on what it's used for, and what other devices you have access to in your life. If someone only has one phone as their personal computer for everything then I can see an argument that the minimum should be higher, but if the phone is intended to be comfortably pocketable tool for tasks you're likely to need while away from a larger/more powerful device. For example have the phone to handle calls, simple messaging, taking photos (minus editing), transport/store apps, and a full PC or larger phone/tablet for ticketmaster.

The only other option that I've toyed with is buying a small feature/"dumb" phone for going in the pocket and a smartphone in a bag, which seems less ideal.

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14. diggan+y01[view] [source] 2025-07-17 10:30:34
>>Middle+(OP)
> https://aiphor.com/products/bluefox-nx1-4-0-android-smartpho...

Huh, for some reason, this page loads properly and I can see it for 1-2 seconds, but it seems like as soon as it's done loading, it redirects me to google.com. Based in Spain, so guessing it's their way of turning away EU or European customers I guess?

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15. Middle+h61[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 11:25:26
>>keyrin+8Y
>If someone only has one phone as their personal computer for everything then I can see an argument that the minimum should be higher

Yeah for those people, they would need a beefier phone. That's certainly not me, I have devices at home. In my case, a pure dumb phone isn't of much use to me either, I make maybe one or two phone calls most months, but I've always used my phone as more of a borderline feature phone.

>a full PC or larger phone/tablet for ticketmaster.

The problem with ticketmaster is that you need to use it at the events themselves. Most events no longer use physical tickets. But a stronger phone or tablet won't help you here. Even on a high-end phone, ticketmaster will somehow forget to store your login information while you have poor network connectivity due to tons of people in the area, even if you try to load your tickets ahead of time to avoid the issue (although somehow they always deliver ads!). Everyone complains about ticketmaster's fees, but the app is the worst part.

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16. Middle+571[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 11:29:45
>>mnmals+WP
I have no idea, I don't work for them or live in the EU. But given that other users report problems loading the site, maybe they don't support EU customers. The phone exists in China but only started taking pre-orders in the US, so maybe it will change in the future.
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17. vbezhe+J71[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 11:35:15
>>notato+Jo
For me, screen size is what matters. Because I'm using screen. Small bezel is very bad thing, because it registers accidental touches now. Best phone in the history of mankind was iPhone 4S. Perfectly balanced. It's all went downhill since then.
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18. Middle+8e1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 12:27:49
>>diggan+y01
They seem to be doing stuff by countries, probably due to regulations. The phone has existed in China for a bit already and only recently became pre-orderable in the US.
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19. diggan+Di1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-17 12:54:21
>>Middle+8e1
Strange approach to do a silent redirect instead of saying why it isn't available, makes it look broken rather than intentional.
20. layer8+Cj1[view] [source] 2025-07-17 13:00:33
>>Middle+(OP)
No 5G, no eSIM, no NFC, and a bit thick, though.
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21. ItsHar+MT8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-20 04:41:52
>>notato+Jo
Plus, the diagonal measurement doesn't reflect the width of the phone. Phones got taller/narrower probably about the same time as we started ditching physical buttons below the screen, so the screen size numbers went up without making phones wider, even if you keep the bezels the same size.

People comparing old smartphone diagonal screen measurements to modern ones as if they're equivalent is a huge pet peeve for me. Diagonals are a horrible way to measure screens.

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