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1. Maxiou+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-11 03:58:51
>It's hard to think of any other major tech product where it's acceptable to shift so much blame on the user.

Apple's Response to iPhone 4 Antenna Problem: You're Holding It Wrong https://www.wired.com/2010/06/iphone-4-holding-it-wrong/

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2. wiethe+V5[view] [source] 2025-07-11 05:21:40
>>Maxiou+(OP)
I don't see how the Antennagate can be qualified as "acceptable" since it caused a big public uproar and Apple had to settle a class action lawsuit.

https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-antennagate-scandal-ti...

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3. 8note+l8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-11 05:54:34
>>wiethe+V5
it didnt end the iphone as a brand, or end smart phones altogether though.

how much did that uproar and settlement matter?

4. davely+F9[view] [source] 2025-07-11 06:13:13
>>Maxiou+(OP)
Mobile phone manufacturers were telling users this long before the iPhone was ever invented.

e.g., Nokia 1600 user guide from 2005 (page 16) [0]

[0] https://www.instructionsmanuals.com/sites/default/files/2019...

5. TeMPOr+fe[view] [source] 2025-07-11 07:04:33
>>Maxiou+(OP)
The important difference is that in your example, it was the manufacturer telling customers they're holding it wrong. With LLMs, the vendors say no such things - it's the actual users that are saying this to their peers.
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