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1. ysofun+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-05 16:44:13
the police in spain act like anybody using cloudflare is pirating something, so it kinda checks out
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2. elnatr+v1[view] [source] 2025-07-05 16:57:59
>>ysofun+(OP)
ClodFlare does not want to comply with court rulings. Not in Spain, nor in France.
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3. anthk+T3[view] [source] 2025-07-05 17:20:55
>>ysofun+(OP)
s,police,laliga,g
4. prmous+36[view] [source] 2025-07-05 17:40:37
>>ysofun+(OP)
Isn't it the justice system enforcing La Liga's bullshit? I don't think the police is involved in this.
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5. throw1+n8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-05 18:04:10
>>elnatr+v1
Which court rulings in Spain Cloudflare doesn't want to comply with?
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6. hibiki+Jd[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-05 18:58:08
>>throw1+n8
It's not quite that. LaLiga got a ruling (310/2024, Dec-18-2024) So that they can demand Spanish ISPs to block IPS that LaLiga claims are used to pirate soccer games. But as one would expect, piracy like this involves some CDNing, and therefore CloudFlare IPs. But since those don't necessarily point to individual customers on the other side, in practice it means parts of the internet don't work well in Spain while a game is going on, as the IP blocks that are deemed to be full of piracy are hosting all kinds of other things.

So the issue isn't whether piracy is getting stopped or not, but that the blast radius hits a whole lot of people, including other cloudflare customers.

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7. elnatr+nk[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-05 20:07:51
>>throw1+n8
Cloudflare does not provide the information to the court about the clients that do piracy.
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8. throw1+C45[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-07 18:41:32
>>elnatr+nk
Do they have to, especially if they're not from Spain?
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9. elnatr+3ya[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-09 20:31:01
>>throw1+C45
If they want to operate in Spain, yes.
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10. throw1+Uiz[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 20:42:54
>>elnatr+3ya
I'm not familiar with Spanish law, but you can see the problem with forcing a company to provide details of customers that are from a different country.

It's a bit like the UK demanding that Apple gave them access to user data of all customers worldwide. Apple correctly told them no and stopped offering end-to-end encryption to UK users.

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11. elnatr+BlA[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-19 08:26:05
>>throw1+Uiz
So, following your example, CloudFlare should stop offering the service to Spanish clients that allow them to break the law.
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