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1. birn55+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-06-29 12:55:05
Could you elaborate? Because it's an Israeli news organization?
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2. snicke+W9[view] [source] 2025-06-29 14:16:36
>>birn55+(OP)
Yes, and one of the more prominent ones at that. If they had a bias in this, I would expect them to be biased in favor of Israel not against it. If even they are saying Israel is committing these war crimes then I'm inclined to assume that the evidence must be very compelling.
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3. edanm+Ed[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-29 14:47:30
>>snicke+W9
Just for the record, this is almost certainly wrong in the sense you mean it.

Haaretz is a (far?) left, anti-current-government newspaper. It's not outside the mainstream or anything - it is considered largely credible, and its articles are taken seriously - but most people in Israel would find it funny that you assume it wouldn't be biased against Israel. Lots of Netanyahu supporters routinely consider it a "traitorous" publication.

I think its articles should be taken seriously, but you can't simply assume it's automatically right and not "biased". Think of it the way an American Democrat would think of Fox or something - the news org definitely has a viewpoint.

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4. aiseni+ay[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-29 17:40:37
>>edanm+Ed
Lots of people still believe that "critical of the government" is not the same as "biased against the country." That's an explicitly authoritarian belief and a disastrous framework to work within. It's antithetical to the concept of human rights and notable historical documents such as the American Constitution.

The bias of a mainstream publication that's considered "traitorous" by genocidal authoritarian ethnonationalists is, given historical consideration, likely to be toward justice.

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5. smaude+fX3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-30 21:15:19
>>edanm+Ed
I don't think you can frame a media outlet based on which administration is currently in power. Anything and everything an administration says is propaganda, and hence untrustworthy.

I.e. your claim that it is leftist requires some justification.

Yeah, sure, if you are a Nazi, everything to the left of you is going to look "left", and likewise if you are a Communist, everything to the right is going to look "right", that doesn't make your viewpoint reality, however.

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6. edanm+hJ4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-01 05:40:55
>>smaude+fX3
I don't think I'm framing Haaretz based on the current administration.

I'm a leftist - I identify far more with what Haaretz is doing than most other news orgs. I'm personally very angry that other orgs, even ones that are "centrist" or "anti-current-government", are not covering the stories that Haaretz is covering, and barely covering the tragedies happening in Gaza. It's common in most countries during wartime, but it's deeply wrong IMO.

That all said, saying Haaretz is on the left is like saying Fox News is on the right. It's common knowledge.

And here, I just looked it up, this is from Haaretz's own About section:

"Haaretz has built a reputation for in-depth reporting, insightful analysis, and a liberal and progressive editorial stance on domestic issues and international affairs."

So they are framing themselves as liberal and progressive.

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