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1. Newton+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-06-28 16:51:08
> Including a sizeable Jewish minority.

There was a Jewish community in Palestine (mostly centered around Jerusalem) but they did not come up with the Zionist project. Actually, many were opposed and some of their descendants still do so to this day.

> The ethnic cleansing/settler-colonialist paradigm is easy for outsiders to project on the region

The (European) architects of the Zionist project literally called it colonialism.

"You are being invited to help make history. It doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor; not Englishmen but Jews … How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial." -Theodor Herzl

Ze'ev Jabotinsky literally compared the Zionist project to other colonial projects when arguing the people living there would fight back against their colonizers and the need for numbers and strength to counter them.

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2. JumpCr+h3[view] [source] 2025-06-28 17:14:30
>>Newton+(OP)
> Ze'ev Jabotinsky literally compared the Zionist project to other colonial projects

The Zionist Project is comparable to colonialism. That doesn’t make it settler-colonialism. (And Jabotinsky isn’t the final word on anything other than himself.)

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3. slt202+fi[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-28 19:07:40
>>JumpCr+h3
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4. JumpCr+Oi[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-28 19:11:04
>>slt202+fi
Sure. I can find terrible people opining on the case for a Palestinian state, too. That isn’t really an argument about what it is.
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5. alfied+MP[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-29 00:34:01
>>JumpCr+h3
The whole notion of settling outside borders is marketing for annexation but has total support from Western Governments, yet those same governments are absolutely against the annexation of Ukraine.

… fuck I hate politics :(

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6. immibi+cD6[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-01 07:57:07
>>alfied+MP
There's a class of people who don't actually have moral principles but pretend to in order to justify selfishness. Their stated principles can turn on a dime because they don't actually believe them. Almost all politicians are in this group.
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