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1. avip+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-06-28 15:40:50
Here's the coverage you've asked (opinions my own, I do not pretend to rep. anyone)

Israel stated goals of war:

1. Return the hostages

2. Remove Hamas regime from Gaza

3. (arguably done) bring north-Israel communities safely back home

Unstated goals:

1. Open Egypt-Gaza border. This had failed.

2. Create safe zone on the Gaza-Israeli border. This is mostly done in practice. This goal cannot be stated (though it'll save many lives)

Hamas goals:

Read Hamas chapter, or see interviews with captured Hamas militants post 7/10 attack (if you believe it's not scripted)

Gazan who are not part of Hamas regime goals: survive

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2. realo+ye[view] [source] 2025-06-28 17:20:10
>>avip+(OP)
Hum... when I look at pictures of the very thorough destruction in Gaza (hospitals, civilians etc) it would seem that the israelis think "Remove Hamas" actually means kill everyone one in Gaza.

If not a genocide, at the very least an ethnocide.

Next step: Riviera Gaza!

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3. archag+1w[view] [source] 2025-06-28 19:32:41
>>avip+(OP)
Unstated goal #1 for Netanyahu: avoid prison at any cost.
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4. pyuser+Fw[view] [source] 2025-06-28 19:39:32
>>avip+(OP)
Another unstated goal: punitively deter future attacks.
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5. avip+Ix[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-28 19:47:36
>>pyuser+Fw
100%. Thanks for mentioning that.
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6. chipsr+pN[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-28 22:07:59
>>realo+ye
They think Palestinian = Hamas
7. mouset+WN[view] [source] 2025-06-28 22:13:13
>>avip+(OP)
Stated goal (by Ben Givir, Smoltrich and, yes, Bibi himself): genocide of Gaza.

Half the cabinet of the current Israeli government has made public statements to the effect of wanting to starve everyone or kill all the kids.

We've seen the videos and, with !gt, we can read the translations.

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8. Friday+OS[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-28 23:05:24
>>archag+1w
That's another straw man argument. No other prime minister would act differently in his place.
9. Hikiko+SU[view] [source] 2025-06-28 23:26:20
>>avip+(OP)
Hamas goal with the hostages was exchange has Israel has tens of thousands Palestinian prisoners. Turns out Israel doesn't care anymore and will even sacrifice their own to further right wing Zionist goals.
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10. Qem+x81[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-29 02:23:57
>>mouset+WN
> Half the cabinet of the current Israeli government has made public statements to the effect of wanting to starve everyone or kill all the kids.

There's a database tracking those: https://law4palestine.org/law-for-palestine-releases-databas...

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11. jazzco+5P1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-29 12:19:57
>>mouset+WN
There's also the poll that was conducted by penn state -

It found that 82% of Israelis want to expel Gazans, and 47% of support killing all Palestinians in Gaza.

Article was featured in Haaretz - linked to here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/poll-82-of-israelis-wan...

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