>>zb3+(OP)
Well they can, but isn't debian and freebsd on mobile here now? I know they are rough around the edges, but who still cares about Android or iOS in the long run? If I can run my mobile device with root access using debian or freebsd, why still bother with Google and Apple?
>>hidden+V2
Which devices are you talking about? Do they have cameras, modems, NFC?
And you're not talking about running these systems on top of android, right?
>>gaussw+mb
It doesn't even need to be something that Grandma can use. It just needs to be something that will let you pass the various "you must have a smartphone to participate in society" checks. But considering banks and the like won't even let you use AOSP in many cases, I sincerely doubt one can get a Debian phone to work.
>>bigstr+8h
i hear the bank argument a lot and although i can understand the importance for those without another device, i'm a little stunned people rely on modern pocket spyware to monitor their accounts. maybe i know too much, or too little, but my banking concerns are infrequent and always in a browser.
>>gaussw+6s
Welcome to Poland, where you can't transfer more than ~$13K daily without using mobile auth (bank app). Currently only the PKO bank implements this (and I hope this backfires on them), but I'd not be surprised if others follow.
>>zb3+H7
Volla is one that comes to mind. Ubuntu touch, it is German, but there should be more coming. Not really advertising them, but should be more that is coming.