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> ... drastically restrict the syscall API surface available to the sandboxee, which quickly reduces its value ...

Depends I guess as Android has had quite a bit of success with seccomp-bpf & Android-specific flavour of SELinux [0]

> Until we have a properly hardened and memory safe OS ... faster than running MicroVMs on a Linux host.

Andy Tanenbaum might say, Micro Kernels would do just as well.

>>ignora+(OP)
You also have gVisor, which runs all syscall through some Go history that's supposedly safe enough for Google.

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>>ignora+(OP)
> Android

Exactly. Android pulls this off by being extremely constrained. It's dramatically less flexible than an OCI runtime. If you wanna run a random unenlightened workload on it you're probably gonna have a hard time.

> Micro Kernels would do just as well.

Yea this goes in the right direction. In the end a lot of kernel work I look at is basically about trying to retrofit benefits of microkernels onto Linux.

Saying "we should just use an actual microkernel" is a bit like "Russia and Ukraine should just make peace" IMO though.

>>lillec+la
gVisor uses virtualization