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1. mystif+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-05-28 15:03:38
In my first job after graduating I've found:

* programmer that worked maybe 2h/day, but was otherwise very important to one of the oursourced projects, so he got away with it and was publicly laughing about it without ever getting reprimanded

* devops guy that insisted on using his magic copy-pasted shitty shell scripts instead of any popular config management tool at the time, simply to make it harder for anyone else to take his duties, also no monitoring, just call him when something breaks

* junior dev, that routinely spent 2-3 days on a simple bugfix, that later had to be reassigned to a senior that fixed it in 15 minutes without any context from the junior dev, that situation was apparently okay for the company, because a clueless client paid by hour and had no idea it keeps happening all the time

* tester, who after half a year figured out that his manual testing isn't quantifiable at all, as long as he claims that everything is working to make management happy, so he found a second job

So, I'm in the WTFC camp since, I guess, a month of working in IT.

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2. ewhanl+69[view] [source] 2025-05-28 15:50:07
>>mystif+(OP)
It sounds like you should be able to run the table with so little competition. Why not engage, take on more responsibility, and obviously stand out to get more money and influence?
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3. saulpw+pd[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-28 16:12:29
>>ewhanl+69
Because, as has been mentioned innumerable times in this thread, going through all that extra effort does not get you more money. It gets you more stress and a target on your back when you make a mistake.
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4. azemet+df[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-28 16:21:10
>>ewhanl+69
Because you won't be rewarded with money and influence while still having the same risks of layoffs.

At this point you're better off working on your own thing because the company is usually, always with few exceptions mind you, a dishonest actor that is openly hostile.

The elites can't blame the state of the world on workers when they've created out hellscape of treadmills to delusion and abandonment.

replies(1): >>whstl+pq
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5. ewhanl+Qf[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-28 16:29:57
>>saulpw+pd
Bingo - sorry, this was a mostly rhetorical question.
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6. Henchm+fo[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-28 17:15:38
>>ewhanl+69
When you perform well at work and you do NOT get a share of the profits then all you shall be rewarded with is more work. Why? WTFC???
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7. whstl+pq[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-28 17:24:17
>>azemet+df
Yep. The only reward in a place that doesn’t care is time.

I am in a proper place now, but I regret not getting a second job in my previous fintech job.

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8. azemet+fP[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-28 19:42:35
>>whstl+pq
Why do you feel the need to work a second job, why would that be better? Wouldn't you rather be a part of your local community and put effort there rather than a private enterprise?
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9. whstl+2r1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-29 01:37:55
>>azemet+fP
Yeah, that's also an option.
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10. chipsr+MP6[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-31 09:19:33
>>azemet+fP
Two jobs pay two salaries.
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11. azemet+gWa[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-02 13:47:26
>>chipsr+MP6
There's more to life than working. Why do you feel it's necessary to work two jobs in an industry that typically pays more than the median home income in 99% of cities in the US?
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12. whstl+H0g[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-04 08:04:59
>>azemet+gWa
There’s more to work than getting a salary.
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13. azemet+W0i[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-04 22:01:02
>>whstl+H0g
Yes but wouldn't you rather get this through your community, family, and friends? You know the things that don't have dominion over your ability to survive?
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14. whstl+Hrx[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-06-11 08:14:50
>>azemet+W0i
Not necessarily.

What can I say, I enjoy programming and making stuff with a group.

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