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1. tolera+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-05-28 15:01:50
Where I think that pieces like this fall short at are identifying what they think people should "care" about and why these things matter.

For example,

* Who cares that those newspapers ran AI-generated reading lists when the actual people who represent the newspapers wouldn't actually be the ones recommending the books anyway?

(People who make things that you read aren't reading themselves.)

* Why should people care to fund or listen to audio deep-dives into the Multiverse or a middle-aged man's memoir about when he was 12 and he heard songs?

* Why shouldn't people submit boilerplate responses to boilerplate questions that are an artificial barrier between them and what is contemporarily accepted as a socioeconomic exchange?

I wonder if there's anything that the author can draw from their experiences in punk culture to round out the answers the questions like this.

We are flailing in the middle of a long-running vacuum of meaning and purpose.

I worry about the sort of people who are set at ease by the vague quasi-institutional appeals that conclude this post.

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2. strgcm+FF[view] [source] 2025-05-28 18:49:05
>>tolera+(OP)
Your comment somehow reminded me of this quote: "In a society that profits from your self doubt, liking yourself is a rebellious act." (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9371890-in-a-society-that-p...)

That's not a direct response to your concern, but I think this quote applies in a parallel manner -- I've seen this quote applied as a statement about what it means to be "punk", and how simply being content with yourself (meaning you don't fall victim to all the ways society attacks/preys on insecurities or tries to sell you drugs or makeup or clothes or surgery or whatever to change yourself), is actually incredibly "punk". You don't have to dress up weird, or go out and do graffiti, or get into fights... just being content with yourself is "punk", within a capitalist/post-capitalist world.

So, in a similar vein, I think this author is saying that, "caring" is also a form of being "punk", in a world where seemingly not-caring is mainstream now. The thing is, being "punk" doesn't need an external "why" reason to justify it... the whole point of "punk" culture is about authenticity, that just being yourself is what's important, that you don't need a special reason to reject capitalist consumerism or mainstream opiate-of-the-masses media or to dress how you feel instead of how society thinks you should look. In that way, being "punk" is quite Buddhism-aligned actually, to center on existence and enlightenment through self-realization, instead of pursuit of external "why" reasons for doing X or Y.

Caring is the punk thing to do, because it is who you actually are. You don't need a special reason to care, if you subscribe to any kind of "punk" mindset/philosophy about life. Don't care because it will yield better material rewards, get you laid, or whatever. Care, just because.

At least, that's the argument... up to you if you buy it or not.

3. BrenBa+5E1[view] [source] 2025-05-29 04:15:55
>>tolera+(OP)
I think that's only part of the story. Another part is what are you caring about or doing instead. People don't have to care about those things, but what are they doing with their time instead? "Funny fails" videos and getting french fries delivered? Part of the point is that you have to do something with your time, it's just that now people spend their time doing stuff they don't care about, which is sad. You don't have to care about those particular things, but if you're not caring about anything I think it indicates something is out joint.
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4. drw85+pT1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-29 08:10:24
>>BrenBa+5E1
That's a very good point. I know quite some people that have absolutely no interests. All they do is play games all day. No a specific game that they really like, but any game that offers enough busy work to distract for a month or two. Aside from that maybe they watch some short form videos like you mentioned, when they eat their microwaved or ordered meal.

For some people now, i would be hard to summarise them. To describe them, other than 'plays games' or 'watches videos'. And you can tell something is missing, they're not happy, but distracted enough to not care.

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5. tolera+Qc2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-29 12:12:25
>>BrenBa+5E1
We are flailing in the middle of a long-running vacuum of meaning and purpose.

And the worst-kept secret is that people have to be told what to care about.

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