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1. Admira+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-05-19 21:10:32
Except of course this other dig at Biden elsewhere in the article:

> “I have the same cancer that Joe Biden has. I also have prostate cancer that has also spread to my bones, but I’ve had it longer than he’s had it – well, longer than he’s admitted having it,” Adams said.

The use of the word "admitted" implies that Biden is either lying about how far it has progressed, or that he has known about it longer than he has admitted.

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2. ars+32[view] [source] 2025-05-19 21:23:41
>>Admira+(OP)
> or that he has known about it longer than he has admitted.

Which is probably true. And it's fine, he has no obligation to disclose this until he wants to. In contrast his dementia though ....... that's something he should have disclosed earlier.

Edit: "Several doctors told Reuters that cancers like this are typically diagnosed before they reach such an advanced stage." from https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bidens-cancer-diagnosis-pro...

3. Invict+i4[view] [source] 2025-05-19 21:37:46
>>Admira+(OP)
There is a NYT article up right now pondering the same question: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/19/us/politics/biden-cancer-...
4. yaksha+r9[view] [source] 2025-05-19 22:11:52
>>Admira+(OP)
That’s not a dig at Biden. It’s just [almost certainly] true.
5. conduc+Sb[view] [source] 2025-05-19 22:28:43
>>Admira+(OP)
I’m no doctor but I know PSA test would have identified its existence long before this stated progression. It’s a blood test that would be routine for any male his age, he’s probably had them at least annually for decades of his life at this point

The implied timelines don’t match.

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6. 7402+3e[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-19 22:49:56
>>conduc+Sb
Not routine at age 82: "most organizations recommend stopping the screening around age 70" https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/psa-test/in-dept...
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7. nilram+EK[view] [source] 2025-05-20 04:26:13
>>Admira+(OP)
"admitting" could also be in the sense of "disclosing". I wouldn't expect anyone, even an elected leader, to immediately disclose a health issue that requires some amount of understanding and decision-making.

There's a segment of the population that thinks he knew while he was running for president but didn't disclose or "admit" the issue to the public. Given that this is an aggressively metastatic cancer, and Biden's campaign ended nearly 10 months ago, I think that's implausible to the point of being ludicrous.

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8. marcus+RO1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-20 14:10:18
>>7402+3e
I sincerely hope our presidents' care isn't limited common practice.
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9. potato+J02[view] [source] 2025-05-20 15:21:38
>>Admira+(OP)
>The use of the word "admitted" implies that Biden is either lying about how far it has progressed, or that he has known about it longer than he has admitted.

Adams doesn't need to imply it when medical SOP implies it.

I understand why Biden would not want to share that info and think that he made the right call for the situation he was in at the time (even before you consider domestic politics it's generally unwise for heads of state to talk about medical problems unless they're imminently stepping down because of them) but every man in this country over 40 knows that this cancer is screened for and someone getting "head of state" level care doesn't just get surprised by this kind of cancer at this stage unless many people were negligent.

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10. dragon+292[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-20 16:05:09
>>marcus+RO1
I don't think being a current or former president materially changes the rationale for that recommendation.
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11. fwip+ak2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-20 17:22:32
>>dragon+292
Sure it does. The death or major illness of a sitting president is impactful in a way that the death of an average retiree is not. The cost of performing the test is inconvenience (admittedly of a man whose time is very valuable), but the cost of missing a major health problem has geopolitical consequences. The health recommendations are definitely going to shift toward "better safe than sorry."
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12. dragon+En2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-20 17:47:50
>>fwip+ak2
> Sure it does. The death or major illness of a sitting president is impactful in a way that the death of an average retiree is not.

The recommendation is not based around the public impact of the patient's death, but around the expected utility of the test in improving the length and/or quality of the patient's life, which is fairly low in the best of times for PSA screening.

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13. s1arti+h33[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-20 22:37:43
>>dragon+292
I think it does. For one, there are major 3rd party consequences of illness that are unparalleled.

Second, many recommendations are based on resource limitations that simply don't exist for a POTUS.

Last, and similarly, standard of care is based on standard doctors, treatment, and hospitals. They go out the window when these aren't true.

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14. dragon+473[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-20 23:16:43
>>s1arti+h33
> Second, many recommendations are based on resource limitations that simply don't exist for a POTUS.

AFAIK, the PSA one isn't based on resource limitations, though.

It's based on the specificity being low enough and the risks, especially with advancing age, of the follow up tests being high enough that at a certain point the test is perceived as having zero-to-negative value in terms of QALY for the patient.

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15. fwip+yl4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-21 14:06:42
>>dragon+En2
A president and their team is absolutely going to take a "better safe than sorry" approach. The doctor is not the only person who decides what treatment should be, the patient does too.
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16. rfdave+3T5[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-22 00:15:07
>>fwip+yl4
PSA is not fool proof test, and is susceptible to false positives. A substantial fraction of men, in the 40+% range have prostate cancer at death. The treatments for it can be painful and have long recoveries, so there's not obvious solutions.
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17. 7402+Mv8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-05-22 22:01:19
>>dragon+292
Indeed: "Mr. Biden’s last-known prostate-specific antigen test, the most common way to screen for prostate cancer, was in 2014. Mr. Biden would have been 71 or 72 years old at the time." https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/20/us/politics/biden-prostat...
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