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o3 is so far ahead of antrhopic and google, these models arent even worth using

>>obsole+(OP)
o3 is expensive in the API and intentionally crippled in the web app.

>>obsole+(OP)
source?

>>obsole+(OP)
The benchmarks (1) seem to suggest that o3 is in 3rd place after Gemini 2.5 pro preview and Gemini 2.5 pro exp (for text reasoning, o3 4th for webdev). o3 doesn't even appear on the openrouter leaderboards (2) suggesting is hardly used (if at all) by anyone using LLMs do actually do anything (such as coding) which makes one question if it is actually any good at all (otherwise if it was so great I'd expect to see heavy usage)

Not sure where your data is coming from but everything else is pointing to Google supremacy in AI right now. I look forward to some new models from Anthropic, xAi, Meta et al (remains to be seen if OpenAI has anything left apart from bluster). Exciting times.

1 - https://beta.lmarena.ai/leaderboard

2 - https://openrouter.ai/rankings

>>obsole+(OP)
8x the cost for maybe 5% improvement?

>>Square+oi
use the models daily, its not even close

>>mattlo+tj
you just arent using the models to their full capacity if you think this, benchmarks have all been hacked

>>obsole+(OP)
Not my experience, at all.

I have long stopped using OpenAI products, and all oX have been letdowns.

For coding it has been Claude 3.5 -> 3.7 -> Gemini 2.5 for me. For general use it has been chatgpt -> Gemini.

Google has retaken the ML crown for my use cases and it keeps getting better.

Gemini 2.0 flash was also the first LLM I put in production, because for my use case (summarizing news articles and translate them) it was way too fast, accurate and cheap to ignore whereas ChatGPT was consistently too slow and expensive to be even considered.