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Every time I ask an LLM to not write comments, it still litters it with comments. Is Gemini better about that?

>>Trasma+(OP)
I usually ask ChatGPT to "comment the shit out of this" for everything it writes. I find it vastly helps future LLM conversations pick up all of the context and why various pieces of code are there.

If it is ingesting data, there should also be a sample of the data in a comment.

>>Trasma+(OP)
LLMs are extremely poor at following negative instructions, tell them what to do, not what not to do.

>>sitkac+x2
Ok, so saying "Implement feature X" leads to a ton of comments. How do you rewrite that comment to not include "don't write comments" while making the output not containing comments? "Write only source code, no plain text with special characters in the beginning of the line" or what are you suggesting here in practical terms?

>>Trasma+(OP)
No, you can tell it not to write these comments in every prompt and it'll still do it

>>diggan+Q6
"Implement feature X, and as you do, insert only minimal and absolutely necessary comments that explain why something is being done, not what is being done."

>>diggan+Q6
“Constrain all comments to a single block at the top of the file. Be concise.”

Or something similar that does not rely on negation.

>>srouss+m8
I also include something about "Target the comments towards a staff engineer that favors concise comments that focus on the why, and only for code that might cause confusion."

I also try and get it to channel that energy into the doc strings, so it isn't buried in the source.

>>FireBe+A7
You would say "omit the how". That word has negation built in.

>>diggan+Q6
This is sort of LLM specific. For some tasks you might try including the word comment but give the order at the beginning and end of the prompt. This is very model dependent. Like:

Refractor this. Do not write any comments.

<code to refractor>

As a reminder your task is to refractor the above code and do not write any comments.

>>srouss+m8
But I want no comments whatsoever, not one huge block of comments at the top of the file. How'd I get that without negation?

Besides, other models seems to handle negation correctly, not sure why it's so difficult for the Gemini family of models to understand.

>>static+7c
> Do not write any comments. [...] do not write any comments.

Literally both of those are negations.

>>Trasma+(OP)
Sample size of one, but I just tried it and it worked for me on 2.5 pro. I just ended my prompt with "Do not include any comments whatsoever."

>>diggan+pp
Yes my suggestion is that negations can work just fine, depending on the model and task, and instead of avoiding negations you can try other promoting strategies like emphasizing what you want at the beginning and at the end of the prompt.

If you think negations never work tell Gemini 2.5 to "write 10 sentences that do not include the word the" and see what happens.

>>diggan+Q6
"Whenever you are tempted to write a line or block comment, it is imperative that you just write the actual code instead"