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1. palata+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-04-13 22:51:31
Multiple things here.

* The vast majority of the payments (almost all of them) are done with dynamic QR codes.

* The static QR code is mostly used by very, very small entities. Like the person asks you to scan their code, enter the amount and show them the confirmation. It is in their interest to show the right QR code.

* Sending money to a friend is done with the phone number as an id. It works, but you need to enter the mobile phone number of the receiver.

* There is one situation where static codes are printed and where phishing has been reported (it's not MITM, it's really just a QR code that sends you to a bad website): when paying for parking. You don't have to use it if you don't feel comfortable, and it is possible to feel comfortable because it actually just opens a website (so if you use it regularly you can learn to check that you are on the legit website before you make the payment).

Overall, it is super popular and it works really well. No need for NFC, and no need to install the Google Play Services \o/.

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2. andrew+Sd2[view] [source] 2025-04-14 19:11:34
>>palata+(OP)
I'm sure it does work really well -- the social dynamics are there, it's obviously easy to use. That doesn't mean I have to like the technical characteristics.

A counter-point might be that my credit card doesn't require Google Play Services either. And won't run out of battery. And works with all the local businesses, including the smallest -- while there are some people (mostly outside cities) who still only take cash, I can't imagine them signing up for TWINT either.

There are several providers of services allowing individuals and small traders to accept credit and debit cards, and I've happily accepted cards from foreign banks too.

I'd be sceptical of anything like TWINT catching on in the UK, because NFC payments are already ubiquitous and also really easy to use.

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3. palata+Gs3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-04-15 06:52:33
>>andrew+Sd2
> That doesn't mean I have to like the technical characteristics.

I didn't say you have to like them. But if you claim they are insecure, I feel like it's my right to note that you may be wrong.

> A counter-point might be that my credit card doesn't require Google Play Services either.

That is not exactly a counter-point in a discussion between a mobile app doing NFC and a mobile app using QR codes, is it?

> I'd be sceptical of anything like TWINT catching on in the UK, because NFC payments are already ubiquitous and also really easy to use.

That's another question. My original point was that non-US banks should not depend on Google Play Services or Apple Pay (which at least until very recently was the only way to pay with NFC on iPhones, wasn't it?).

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