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1. tdeck+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-02-17 06:21:53
The thing is that being homeless is a constant state of emergency for homeless people and we don't talk about it like that.

Imagine if someone spent their time complaining about how pulling over for an ambulance or firetruck made them late to an important life event, so we should stop doing that. I don't think most of us would say "hey wait a minute, this person has a genuine concern. Let's not trivialize it".

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2. presen+yk[view] [source] 2025-02-17 09:57:21
>>tdeck+(OP)
I disagree with the idea that we should accept that homelessness and crippling drug addiction are socially acceptable and normal aspects of society just because the people going through them are suffering more than you are. I think it’s totally reasonable to express that the beach feeling dangerous and disgusting is in fact awful and that you do not like the state of things, and I do not want to live in a society where you can’t state opinions like this straightforwardly (which is why I left SF).
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3. bloomi+aK[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-02-17 13:16:40
>>presen+yk
Can I ask what you do on a regular basis to help homeless people? Was moving away your only actionable item?

I don’t go out of my way to help the homeless either, but I also don’t go out of my way expressing how disgusted I am with them, or rally behind politics that are net bad for everyone just because I really agree that SF is really not to my liking.

You moving away was the adult thing to do. You adding to the carrion call of maga voices is reprehensible.

Enjoy your beaches.

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4. johnny+642[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-02-17 22:08:15
>>presen+yk
You're free to leave. Running is always the fastest solution to avoiding an issue, and you probably can't fix that issue alone.

But I'd hope someone in a thread like this would be interested in a deeper understanding on what factors lead to that.

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5. presen+jN2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-02-18 06:09:54
>>bloomi+aK
You’re making a lot of assumptions.

I am a liberal who believed at some point in my 20s when I lived there that what we needed to fix society’s problems is just to… empathize more. Unfortunately we see how far that gets, as there’s no shortage of “caring” in SF.

I did not vote for Trump, and in fact I was active in SF local politics campaigning for politicians whose platforms I believed would make a real dent in the homelessness problem. Which you’re evidently not interested in doing besides admonishing people for not saying the politically correct thing.

Unfortunately, San Franciscan home owners, when push comes to shove, want a pretty view, the image of a SF frozen how it was when they were young hippies, and inflated housing costs that they profit from, over actually solving any of these problems.

Since then I’ve moved somewhere that prioritizes actually doing things that actually work, and not just feeling bad for people who are downtrodden.

Enjoy your abject human misery and disgusting public spaces, I hope you feeling miserable somehow fixes the issue.

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6. presen+HN2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-02-18 06:13:58
>>johnny+642
Unlike what you may have assumed, I was active in local politics campaigning for change while I was there. What I found is that San Franciscans themselves neither wanted things to change nor did they want people like me who disagree with them to be there. I realized not only that it was a losing battle to try to change the nature of the people there, but also that I didn’t want to martyr myself for a city that clearly didn’t want me to call it home.

What are you doing for the problem?

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