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1. seanmc+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-02-17 05:43:43
Portuguese complain about the drug zombies a lot more than I do.

We lost the war, so let’s just admit it and move on. Like you say, there is nothing we can do, so we should redirect our resources to unhoused cases that we have a much better chance of solving. We can liberalize drugs if you want, let them do all the fent they want; society just shouldn’t be on the hook for fixing them, which doesn’t seem to work very well anyways, even if we spend all of our money on it.

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2. marcus+9c[view] [source] 2025-02-17 07:55:21
>>seanmc+(OP)
> Portuguese complain about the drug zombies a lot more than I do.

[0] USA has the highest drug use per head of population in the entire world. Portugal is way down the list.

I don't think there's "nothing we can do". I think it's more of a question of how we approach the problem. We have always approached it as a failure of the individual in question, requiring correction by punishment. This has clearly not worked (ever) but everyone seems reluctant to abandon it.

If we approach addiction as a disease, like cancer, that affects some people against their will, rather than something they chose because they're junkie scum, we might help them more [1]

> society just shouldn’t be on the hook for fixing them

In the USA society is never on the hook for fixing people. All that rugged individualism. Other societies work differently, and that seems to get better results.

[0] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/drug-use-... the USA has the highest world

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6633066/

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3. robert+lp[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-02-17 10:07:45
>>marcus+9c
> In the USA society is never on the hook for fixing people

Can you cite this? How much does the US spend on entitlements vs other countries?

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4. marcus+Lm2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-02-18 00:34:42
>>robert+lp
Let me Google that for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_social_we...

It's kinda interesting. In terms of % of GDP on social welfare spending it's halfway down the list (but still just above Australia and Canada which surprises me).

In terms of government taxation and spending it's very close to the top on taxation and #10 on spending, which is definitely not what the USA tells itself.

This implies that the USA taxes folks heavily and then doesn't spend it on social welfare (which seems consistent with the vast military spending).

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5. robert+Ita[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-02-20 15:29:54
>>marcus+Lm2
Would you say military jumps out?[0] Medicare + Social Security + Health + Income Security add up to 44% already; much larger than the 15.5% military budget. Or am I misreading it?

[0] https://www.usaspending.gov/explorer/budget_function

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