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1. steve_+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-01-29 17:42:38
I get where you're coming from and generally agree. The trouble is that the integrated tools are all pretty bad, in my experience. If I can use DataGrip instead of some VS Code extension called "Database Client", I'm going to use DataGrip. I will often even prefer pgsql for many tasks. A mediocre tool might save time here and there because it's convenient, but I find their broader impact is poorer work done in worse ways.

Of course, this is all opinion in a very subjective context. Some people do best-in-class work with terrible tools.

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2. Macha+Qu[view] [source] 2025-01-29 19:55:14
>>steve_+(OP)
Datagrip, of course, is just the integrated database editor of intellij packaged without the rest of intellij, so it's not a rule that integrated tools are always bad
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3. steve_+oG[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 20:49:48
>>Macha+Qu
Is it integrated into their IDEs? That's incredible. Fair point, then.

Maybe I should consider using their IDEs.

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4. Hatche+M92[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-30 10:52:04
>>steve_+oG
Yes and since few weeks ago it now comes for free with WebStorm.
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5. steve_+dk4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-31 05:39:23
>>Hatche+M92
Wow, that’s crazy! I need to give it a trial again.

Do you know how the LLM integration is? I heard it’s terrible, but that isn’t a deal breaker.

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