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1. jll29+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-01-29 09:09:09
For starters, I love the licensing, as it is very fair: I bought a personal license and I can take it to as many machines as I have (I do use many different computers). And you can buy it one time, no silly monthly subscription fees.

As a result, Sublime ist the only commercial (locally installed) software I still use, and it is always open.

There are situations, where I use macros, regex substitutions, or browsing the file system (using the keyboard only for speed) when I prefer to use my other editor, Emacs.

I recently played with Zed, which looks cute, but I immediately lost an important file, so back I was in the Sublime buffer. (Both Sublime and Emacs always auto-save documents without explicit "save" action, so you can never lose anything.)

I tend to have many Windows open (several dozens), some of them for several years, others for five minutes. The only two features I would like are: - search across all open files and - a list of edit buffers that is itself an editable buffer that you can walk around using cursor key and select a file by hitting RETURN like Emacs has it.

Generally, I prefer that I doesn't become a feature overloaded big monster of a program that can do everything (that's Emacs already, but I like both, I just want them to stay different).

Although for longer-term programming of bigger projects I prefer IDEs like IntelliJ IDEA or PyCharm CE, in recent time, I had to write mostly small programs, and both Emacs or Sublime fit that bill (no need for language servers for me for two screens full of a Python script as I also teach that stuff).

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2. the_du+f3[view] [source] 2025-01-29 09:45:56
>>jll29+(OP)
> but I immediately lost an important file

Zed has an "autosave" setting, it's just off by default.

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3. robin_+F5[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 10:13:33
>>the_du+f3
Sublime’s behaviour isn’t an autosave, it just never loses text in a window. You can upgrade the entire OS, start Sublime and your windows and text will be waiting for you, regardless of saved or unsaved state. I’ve got five-year-old scratchpad windows open that I’ve never saved.
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4. elAhmo+q6[view] [source] 2025-01-29 10:20:44
>>jll29+(OP)
How did you lose a file?
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5. andrep+r6[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 10:20:44
>>robin_+F5
Fwiw zed also has this explicit "sublime style" save all buffers since 3-4 months ago.
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6. noname+Rc[view] [source] 2025-01-29 11:35:51
>>jll29+(OP)
> but I immediately lost an important file

Notepad++ has had that feature (persisting temporary text buffers) before Sublime Text even existed.

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7. vijayb+dd[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 11:40:57
>>elAhmo+q6
possibly restarting the System
8. bondar+md[view] [source] 2025-01-29 11:41:49
>>jll29+(OP)
>Both Sublime and Emacs always auto-save documents without explicit "save" action, so you can never lose anything.

Unless, of course, you accidentally press "delete folder" instead of "remove folder from project" in the sidebar context menu.

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9. yladiz+4f[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 12:00:52
>>bondar+md
As far as I’m aware it just goes to the bin, it’s not rm’d, so it is recoverable.
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10. JackMo+Sf[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 12:08:55
>>andrep+r6
How do you enable it? I just installed Zed yesterday and I was looking for this setting.

Edit, I suspect what I wanted was the "after delay" setting here https://zed.dev/docs/configuring-zed#autosave

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11. comput+go[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 13:12:26
>>robin_+F5
That's still my favorite feature of all, it even remembers the undo history. Never lost anything to a crash.
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12. pmarre+Ap[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 13:22:32
>>robin_+F5
VSCode does this as well.
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13. gianca+Mx[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 14:15:01
>>comput+go
I had no idea it preserved this too.
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14. jampek+bH[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 15:04:58
>>noname+Rc
I'd guess vim has had this (the .swp files) since the 90's.
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15. jareds+lL[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 15:21:32
>>comput+go
I think you need to create a project file and then it stores things there.

For a long time I would get paranoid about accepting Mac updates which would require a reboot because then I'd lose my undo history and then I discovered that this is all I would need to do.

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16. simpli+fU[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 15:55:07
>>comput+go
It doesn't remember undo history after you close the tab, would love to see that feature though!
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17. mikepu+UZ[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 16:15:40
>>robin_+F5
I do this with Notepad++ and honestly I have mixed feelings about it. It's so convenient but I feel weird about constantly pasting semi-important notes and snippets into this unnamed, unsaved, unsynced doc that just sits there always open on my desktop.

Basically I just feel guilty that I'm not using a "proper" note taking application when so many of them exist.

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18. pxoe+E11[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 16:22:41
>>robin_+F5
>never loses

That was not my experience with sublime because it'd just spontaneously lose a session along with all unsaved data. Some other people would have similar problems too (just look up 'sublime lost session', and apparently people are still having these kinds of problems with them complaining even quite recently).

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19. kevina+A61[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 16:37:35
>>andrep+r6
It doesn’t save unnamed files which is mostly how I use this feature in sublime-text (as a scratch pad): https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/4985
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20. a1o+Dj1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 17:26:18
>>mikepu+UZ
I use notepad++ in the same way without guilt, I also have a paper notebook where I write things in the same random chaos. In the past I had at a time a LG monitor that had really large bezels and I used to glue post its to it all the time as my "temporary" notes.

Most of note taking applications I tried attempt to convince all my text is important and must be stored and if possible classified and that's just not how my relationship with physical notes is.

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21. paulca+Vt1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 18:05:53
>>the_du+f3
It works well, but Zed consuming too much CPU on Linux: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/14833
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22. mikepu+uw1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 18:16:37
>>a1o+Dj1
I resonate a lot with this. Like most of what goes into that system really is pretty disposable, but it would be nice if a note-taking app could just quietly swallow anything I didn't look at for a few days, while still making it available as an "also, this?" entry in full text search. Or maybe for a kind of context-aware search/browsing, if it were possible to do a query like "show me everything I added or altered around the same time I was working with keywords x and y".
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23. LoganD+7z1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-29 18:26:07
>>mikepu+uw1
I used to use a clipboard manager. It had two functionalities:

- The ability to scroll or search my clipboard history

- The ability to pin/favorite individual entries, which would then show up in the pinned/favorited tab

That thing was practically my extra brain before the database corrupted itself... (that threw me so off that I don't even remember anymore most of the time from back when I had it.)

24. cobert+652[view] [source] 2025-01-29 20:53:35
>>jll29+(OP)
It's not a one-time purchase if you consider updates.

> Personal licenses are a once off purchase, and come with 3 years of updates. After 3 years, an upgrade will be required to receive further updates.[0]

Tbh I think this is fair, but it surprises me every 3 years when I have to pay up again xD

[0]: https://www.sublimehq.com/store/text

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25. guiamb+jY2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-30 03:18:28
>>cobert+652
I actually like when I get the note that I need to pay for the upgrade. It's a good reminder that I still find Sublime valuable (so much that I use almost daily), and that I got 3-4 years of free upgrades for a fair price (vs. subscription models like 1Password, or version-specific rip-offs, like VMware Workstation).

It's one of my favorite piece of software. Obsidian being another one.

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26. Dylan1+4f3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-30 06:37:24
>>mikepu+UZ
It's saved, just not to separate files.

And the solution to getting it synced is to back up your computer, which you should definitely be doing.

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27. Tempes+Mj3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-30 07:39:58
>>mikepu+UZ
Same. Although I just discovered UpNote, which seems good so far.
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28. comput+v44[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-30 15:32:43
>>jareds+lL
While I meant closing the whole application at once (which restores all windows/projects and unsaved changes when you restart ST), you're right that projects keep track of unsaved state on a per-project basis, too. So you can open and close project windows individually, but also do the same for Sublime Text as a whole.
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29. mikepu+Ka4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-30 16:08:12
>>Dylan1+4f3
Fair, and I have a whole-system backup (Backblaze), but if the unsaved Notepad++ files were lost, I don't even know what it is I'd have to download from BB to recover them. Obviously I can Google that and figure it out, but who knows... maybe the BB agent will consider them a cache and exclude them? The point is that I haven't really taken the time to consider much of this because step 1 would be to literally just hit the save button, and I haven't even done that.

More broadly, though, I don't know that I consider whole-system backups as important as I might have once. All my local important docs are in Dropbox, and all the code I'm working on is regularly synced out to git hosts. Other than some unimportant Fusion/Bambu projects, most of what I'd lose is honestly that same kind of ephemeral context that unsaved Notepad++ files are: terminal history, browser bar completions, my downloads folder, etc.

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30. Dylan1+ZO4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-30 19:59:22
>>mikepu+Ka4
I'll just say that if it was somehow not backing up AppData/Roaming that would be a big deal and you would want to figure that out and fix it ASAP.
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31. wussbo+0Lj[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-02-04 21:25:16
>>robin_+F5
If you have multiple windows open and close them in the wrong order, you lose everything but the last one. Learned that the hard way and now never have more than one open.
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