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1. I_am_t+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:35:22
A full pardon means the individual gets their legal record cleared (as if the crime never happened).
replies(3): >>snapca+x1 >>namire+m2 >>zachar+f7
2. snapca+x1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:43:52
>>I_am_t+(OP)
they don't get the 10 years back dude jesus christ
replies(2): >>ddtayl+i3 >>eddier+i5
3. namire+m2[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:48:32
>>I_am_t+(OP)
I’m also wondering why a full pardon rather than a commutation.
replies(3): >>red-ir+N3 >>Novemb+04 >>ddtayl+l5
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4. ddtayl+i3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 13:55:40
>>snapca+x1
Nobody will undo whatever has been done to him. I don't know all of the specifics but I have spoken on HN here about my incarceration at much much much lower level facilities.

This man was at a USP and at other times other facilities. Those are places where even with the best intentions you are not expected to move in any capacity without serious safety concerns. We're talking "shower with your boots, a spotter and and a shank on you" environment without the slightest joke.

It took a while likely because Ross is non-violent and smart, but eventually he was unable to stay in general population to some capacity. My understanding is he has spent significant time in solitary confinement or PC - effectively the same thing at these facilities, very small single cell rooms with a slot in them and the minimum required 1 hour of "yard time" per day, most of which has been suspended to some degree due to COVID and the slow response.

The end result is this guy for sure has spent months to years in a very small cell, possibly without even seeing the sun. I didn't see the sun "for reals" for 6 months. A keyboard warrior can swoop in here and talk about how they cannot do this or how X time restrictions exist, but the reality is they just need to move you back to your cell on paper for a day and then back in or trick you into signing some kind of paperwork consenting.

My heart goes out to both of them and I am reminded that I was the person that help mined the first 1FREEROSS Bitcoin vanity address to help crowd fund his defense. Lyn never gave up the slightest even during times that were fucking impossible to imagine.

replies(1): >>nso+rb
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5. red-ir+N3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 13:58:23
>>namire+m2
Trump team wants his help running crypto shenanigans
replies(3): >>immibi+66 >>mardif+T8 >>rtkwe+nL
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6. Novemb+04[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 13:59:49
>>namire+m2
That's transparently obvious if you read the press release: Trump analogizes his own personal treatment by the Justice Department with that of Ulbricht c.f. "weaponization of the justice system".
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7. eddier+i5[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 14:06:17
>>snapca+x1
he doesn't get back time but he does get back status as a cleared individual, which comes with things like the ability to vote and buy weapons.
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8. ddtayl+l5[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 14:06:27
>>namire+m2
I am curious if this matters for the purposes of the Bitcoin "damages". By today's exchange rates it could be an insane amount of money. If the "crime" is supposed to be wiped clean as if he never did it, then in theory it would mean give him back his property, etc. I don't know the specifics about that or if it would change with respect to clemency or commuting of a sentence.
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9. immibi+66[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 14:10:24
>>red-ir+N3
This is the only explanation that makes sense to me.
10. zachar+f7[view] [source] 2025-01-22 14:17:49
>>I_am_t+(OP)
That’s not true actually. Like most things at law, it’s more complicated than that.
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11. mardif+T8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 14:27:50
>>red-ir+N3
Seriously? What a weird suggestion, crypto now has nothing to do with crypto back when he was running Silk road, and there are tons of crypto bros to pick from if the Trump team wanted someone to help run "their crypto shenanigans". I don't think anyone involved in crypto back in 2013 could've seen how much of a mess it would become anyways
replies(1): >>HWR_14+Oc
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12. nso+rb[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 14:44:23
>>ddtayl+i3
He tried to have someone's life violently taken away. He should have rotted in there.
replies(2): >>smeej+vy >>ddtayl+Jx6
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13. HWR_14+Oc[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 14:52:42
>>mardif+T8
> I don't think anyone involved in crypto back in 2013 could've seen how much of a mess it would become anyways

It seems that crypto then and now are pretty similar, mess wise.

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14. smeej+vy[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 16:51:24
>>nso+rb
The typical sentence for attempted murder-for-hire in the U.S. isn't a double life sentence plus 40 years without the possibility of parole.
replies(1): >>ddtayl+3fc
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15. rtkwe+nL[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 17:56:15
>>red-ir+N3
Does he need help? They've already released two nonsense meme coins to bilk their followers and crypto people hoping to time the dump correctly.
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16. ddtayl+Jx6[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-24 23:02:43
>>nso+rb
Do you believe any elements of the investigations or prosecution of Ross involved lies or attempts to frame him by agents?
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17. ddtayl+3fc[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-27 11:03:51
>>smeej+vy
Those sentences are given to people convicted of those crimes. Ross never even had that trial.
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