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1. _Tev+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-01-22 09:55:26
> That doesn't seem to be much of a thing these days.

If you ignore Gaza and whole of Africa, maybe.

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2. tim333+i1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 10:06:48
>>_Tev+(OP)
Gaza seems mostly to be about who controls Israel/Palestine politically. Gaza was reasonably ok for food and housing and is now predictably trashed as a result of Hamas wanting to control Palestine from the river to the sea as they say.

South Sudan is some ridiculous thing where two rival generals are fighting for control. Are there any wars which are mostly about scarcity at the moment?

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3. _Tev+Q1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 10:11:45
>>tim333+i1
So you are saying Hamas would have same domestic support if Gaza was economically at the level of e.g. Slovenia? People who complained about "open air prison" caused by Israeli "occupation" even before Oct 7 would disagree with you I think.

Even in Europe extremists are propped up by promise of "cheap energies" from Russia.

I guess if you dont see the link this is not the place to explain it.

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4. Arkhai+S1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 10:11:55
>>tim333+i1
> Are there any wars which are mostly about scarcity at the moment?

The class war

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5. Filoso+K2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 10:22:13
>>tim333+i1
No, not really... the origin of Gaza conflict is in Zionists confiscating the most fertile land and water resources.

That's why Israelis gladly handed back the Sinai desert to Egypt, but have kept Golan Heights, East Jerusalem, Shaba Farms, and continuously confiscate Palestinian farmlands in the West Bank.

There is nothing arbitrary or religious about which lands Zionists are occupying and which they're leaving to arabs.

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6. dbdosk+d6[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 10:59:48
>>Filoso+K2
Completely false and simplifying a complicated history to present a very one sided view. The most fertile lands are in the west bank. They were under Jordanian control and could have been turned into an independent Palestinian state, but weren't. Israel "accidentally" got them in the 6 days war, and were happy to give them to Jordan back to "take care" of the Palestinian problem, but they refused. The places that Israel have the majority of the population in Petah Tiqwah, Tel Aviv and the region were swamp lands, filled with mosquitos, that were dried over many years and many deaths by Jewish farmers.
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7. corima+f8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 11:21:48
>>_Tev+Q1
Have you videos of Gaza before the war? There are places in Syria and Iraq, hell even India or the Phillipines that look alot worse.
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8. tim333+c9[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 11:31:55
>>corima+f8
Also the "open air prison" effect was a result of trying to reduce attacks from Gaza. For example before the 2008 war there were more than 2000 rockets launched from Gaza into Israel.
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9. nejsjs+ic[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 11:58:21
>>tim333+i1
Like the glib summary of Palestinian history there. In other news some terrorists stole land from the Brits in 1776.
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