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>So you’re saying people are making a rational estimation of the various harms caused to their fellowmen, determining that political actions in Washington are the primary component, and feeling bad about the harm?

Trump released an executive order yesterday that said some of my friends are no longer considered citizens of this country. Yes, sometimes it is incredibly obvious when Washington is to blame for people's suffering.

>>slg+(OP)
This thread is about people whose well being and ability to enjoy life is ruined by politics (Enemy centered mindset).

It’s normal to feel bad for someone you know impacted by bad a policy. Ruining your life on their behalf is not empathetic.

>>liontw+xc
>This thread is about people whose well being and ability to enjoy life is ruined by politics

Another facet of empathy is being able to understand other perspectives besides your own. Maybe this was your interpretation of the bounds of the conversation. It doesn't mean that is the only interpretation.

Here are the exact words from the comment I replied to: "Ended relationships, moved, started therapy or medication." I don't think those are signs someone whose "ability to enjoy life is ruined". In fact, I see those as signs of someone enjoying life more by removing or addressing things that sap the joy out of life.

>>slg+Yg
Yes. Needing medication because your friend has visa problems is crazy. They themselves are probably less anxious.

> another facet of empathy

Do you really think political obsession is just a sign of superior morals and humanity?

Empathy should make you less pessimistic about politics because you understand other groups values and incentives. (I don’t claim this description is me)

>>liontw+2s1
>Yes. Needing medication because your friend has visa problems is crazy.

There was an "or" in that list of possible reactions. I was not giving an example of a situation in which someone would or should have every one of those reactions. I was directly replying to you by giving you an example of a situation in which it was clear that "political actions in Washington are the primary component" of inflicting harm on people.

>Do you really think political obsession is just a sign of superior morals and humanity?

I never said anything about superiority. That is something you brought to the conversation. Is there a reason you view someone exhibiting more empathy than you as an insult?

>Empathy should make you less pessimistic about politics because you understand other groups values and incentives.

Understanding a person's perspective isn't necessarily paired with the ability to change that perspective. Does knowing a racist might be motivated by fear make their racism less dangerous?