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1. ErgoPl+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-01-21 22:46:44
There's a good amount of irony in the results that AI have achieved, particularly if we reach AGI - they have improved individual worker efficiency by removing other workers from the system. Naming it Stargate implies a reckoning with the actual series itself - an accomplishment by humanity. Instead, what this pushes, is accomplishing the removal of humans from humanity. I like cool shiny tech, but I like useful tech that really helps humans more. Work on 3D-printing sustainable food, or something actually useful like that. Jenson doesn't need another 1B gallons of water under his belt.
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2. jfacto+U5[view] [source] 2025-01-21 23:19:56
>>ErgoPl+(OP)
A rat done bit my sister Nell, with whitey on the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_on_the_Moon

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3. tallda+z6[view] [source] 2025-01-21 23:24:05
>>ErgoPl+(OP)
> Instead, what this pushes, is accomplishing the removal of humans from humanity.

If you buy the marketing, yeah. But we aren't really seeing that in the tech sector. We haven't seen it succeed in the entertainment sector... it's still fighting for relevance in the medical and defense industries too. The number and quality of jobs that AI replaced is probably still quite low, and it will probably remain that way even after Stargate.

AI is DOA. LLMs have no successor, and the transformer architecture hit it's bathtub curve years ago.

> Jenson doesn't need another 1B gallons of water under his belt.

Jensen gets what he wants because he works with the industry. It's funny to see people object to CUDA and Nvidia's dominance but then refuse to suggest an alternative. An open standard managed by an independent and unbiased third-party? We tried that, OEMs abandoned it. NPU hardware tailor-made for specific inference tasks? Too slow, too niche, too often ends up as wasted silicon. Alternative manufacturer-specific SDKs integrated with one high-level library? ONNX tried that and died in obscurity.

Nvidia got where they are today by doing exactly what AMD and Apple couldn't figure out. People give Jensen their water because it's wasted in anyone else's hands.

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4. zeofig+N7[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-21 23:32:11
>>tallda+z6
Agreed, but it seems we're gonna ride the AI hype all the way to the "top".
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5. buggle+c9[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-21 23:42:06
>>tallda+z6
> AI is DOA. LLMs have no successor, and the transformer architecture hit it's bathtub curve years ago

Tell me you didn’t read the DeepSeek R1 paper without telling me you also don’t know about reinforcement learning.

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6. tallda+J9[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-21 23:45:22
>>buggle+c9
R1 is a rehash of things we've already seen, and a particularly neutered one at that. Are there any better examples you can think of?
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7. buggle+pa[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-21 23:49:25
>>tallda+J9
Uh, they invented multilatent attention and since the method for creating o1 was never published, they’re the only documented example of producing a model of comparable quality. They also demonstrated massive gains to the performance of smaller models through distillation of this model/these methods, so no, not really. I know this is the internet, but we should try to not just say things.
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8. jfacto+Ex5[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-23 19:53:38
>>jfacto+U5
A rat done bit my sister Nell, with whitey on the moon.

Her face and arms began to swell, and whitey's on the moon.

I can't pay no doctor bills, but whitey's on the moon.

Ten years from now I'll be payin' still, while whitey's on the moon.

The man just upped my rent last night, cause whitey's on the moon.

No hot water, no toilets, no lights, but whitey's on the moon.

I wonder why he's upping me? Cause whitey's on the moon?

Well I was already giving him fifty a week with whitey on the moon.

Taxes taking my whole damn check, junkies making me a nervous wreck,

the price of food is going up, and as if all that shit wasn't enough:

A rat done bit my sister Nell, with whitey on the moon.

Her face and arm began to swell, and whitey's on the moon.

Was all that money I made last year for whitey on the moon?

How come I ain't got no money here? Hmm! Whitey's on the moon.

Y'know I just 'bout had my fill of whitey on the moon.

I think I'll send these doctor bills

airmail special

to whitey on the moon.

—Gilbert Scott-Heron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DUxzAD6RZ0

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