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1. mongol+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-01-21 18:59:36
Regarding Rome. I am thinking the same and what comes to my mind is Caesar. Trump crossed the Rubicon on January 6 and prevailed. Now history will tell how far this analogy will hold but what makes me think of it as fitting is that it marked the end of the Republic and from then on Rome was ruled by emperors and family clans.
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2. Animal+0Q[view] [source] 2025-01-22 00:32:48
>>mongol+(OP)
That doesn't quite work. Trump lost on January 6th - the vote went against him.

I think the Rubicon was more this election. Caesar was in a position where, if he didn't bring his army to Rome, his political enemies were going to destroy him. Trump was in a position where, if he didn't win the election, his political enemies (and the legal cases arising from his various unusual activities) were going to destroy him.

But I wonder if that's really where we are. I wonder if we're not more at the time of Marius and Sulla, and the real Caesar is still 40 years away.

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3. mongol+7t3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-01-22 20:43:26
>>Animal+0Q
I see it as Nov 6 was when he crossed a border without return. He showed his cards. He lost that day, but he wins now, so prevailed in the end.
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