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This all sounds like renting to me. Instead you should:

  - put a rack in your home
  - buy an IPv4 block
  - buy dark fibre
  - start your own ISP
  - advertise routes over BGP
  - host your own email
  - found a registrar and transfer your domains over

All easily obtainable for less than a million dollars in capital. Though once your FTTH and undersea cable operations ramp up you'll need further access to capital.

>>xyzzy_+(OP)
It's all fun and games until you need to deal with the right of way

>>xyzzy_+(OP)
You forgot the steps of pressing your own silicon wafers in the garage, followed by soldering motherboards from zero, and of course, having a steel mill to build racks and computer cases. The only way to ensure true independence.

In all seriousness, I am a big advocate for hosting your own infrastructure as much as you can, but that requires you to be REALLY into doing it. Otherwise, it's just a completely unnecessary chore.

>>greena+D
or boats with dragging anchors

>>xyzzy_+(OP)
Step 1: Simply create your own Starlink.

>>dend+W
Don’t forget creating a society capable of supporting industry and science. On a planet producing enough of the raw materials. In a Universe with appropriate fundamental physical constants etc etc.

>>dend+W
No, that comes far later, after energy self-sufficiency, at which point your operational expenses can be minimized. Then we can start talking about going fully vertical to reduce our supply chain dependencies.

If you're concerned about silicon dependencies, I'd recommend starting with some real estate purchases (mines) and forming a Special Economic Zone first, though.

Remember this is about being an owner and not a renter. The only restriction is our recurring costs, but we have unlimited room upfront, like a Lincoln.

>>softwa+O1
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

>>naming+M1
To host a raspberry pi from scratch, you must first create the internet

>>naming+M1
Step 1 is always "Create the universe".

>>thfura+g2
Alice: I have an urge.

Bob: Oh yeah? I have a demiurge!

Alice: I feel we're not really communicating.

>>naming+M1
You need to constantly launch new satellites as old ones undergo orbital decay and run out of fuel.

>>xyzzy_+(OP)
The second you have a domain you can move it where you want. Change the software, look and feel. You keep subscribers. You don’t need to own every atom, just enough to give you options.

You can’t move your X or FB account. They can block you anytime, or reduce traffic. Way fewer options.

>>xyzzy_+(OP)
You're still renting your ASN and IP space from ARIN/RIPE/etc, and they'll be revoked if you stop paying yearly dues. For true independence, you need to establish a base in international waters and establish a new RIR in accordance with ICANN ICP-2. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/new-rirs-criteria-2012...

>>greena+D
the way to deal with the right of way is "might makes right". As it always has.

>>xyzzy_+(OP)
I really wouldn't mind doing steps 1-3 & 6-7 if it were easier. I don't really care about being an ISP though.

>>richar+54
Recent story regarding itch.io: >>42363727

Just owning your own domain, minding your own business, doesn't guarantee that it won't be taken down on a whim.

>>jasonj+D5
Not impossible, but the likelihood of a domain being taken away on a whim compared to a social network deciding to "shadowban" or just disable an account on their network is significantly lower. Also, with a domain you might have a legal recourse to pursue with the registrar/registry. With a social network account? You're on someone else's turf, and they can do what they want.

>>richar+54
Having control over a domain name doesn't mean all that much when the data hosted on it can be hijacked or held hostage at any point.

>>paxys+Kd
“Just enough to give you options” means you choose how much you need to own, and once you have the domain you can choose the rest. Back your data up, choose tech you can move. The point is that you don’t need to buy every single piece of infrastructure. Compare any of this to ruling your business purely on any platform whose domain you don’t own.

>>jasonj+D5
One of the top comments on BSky shows they got it back up fairly quickly. Try that when running on Google, say. If your business is on YouTube and they decide you’re dead, you’re dead.

“But also, as someone who relies on your site, thank you so much for handling this in such a quick and effective way. Waking up and seeing that the site is already back up despite this all makes me proud and grateful to be on itchio.”

Point is that you can choose your own adventure in a way that eclipses fully relying on another company. Beyond that, you can choose to own as many layers as you want and stop long before building your own hardware and fiber network.

>>paxys+Kd
It offers significantly more flexibility and freedom compared to any social network. If your data is "hijacked" (not sure that that means in this context, but let's assume the host terminated your account), you can spin up another hosting account on one of the many hosting providers and point your domain to it. That's it (not to say that it's that trivial for large sites, but that's the gist of it).

If your account on a major social network is terminated, if you had a large community there, you have quite literally no way to access them unless you had some kind of parallel presence somewhere else.

>>xyzzy_+(OP)
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

There are also Tor hidden services, where the dependency on lower layers still exists but they can't find which is yours.

>>xyzzy_+(OP)
To truly self-host anything, you must first invent the universe.

>>dend+W
Focusing the wrong problem. You'll also need to own everything that being a part of a nation state provides you, including markets and defense. If you can't do that, you can't live truly rent-free.

>>nayuki+U2
To do this you need a cozy relationship with the satellite launch regulator in your country of operation.

>>xyzzy_+(OP)
The difference is that if you're not in a walled garden, all the elements of the stack could be replaced. Obviously one needs to avoid big3 clouds and adversarial domain registrars who make it difficult to transfer domains.