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1. david-+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-12-28 20:58:20
So it says nothing about jeans at all? Magnus was wearing unicoloured navy jeans at the time, which fall within the rules you quoted.

Refusing to match him with a competitor because of this, effectively preventing him to compete, was disproportionate regardless.

Edit: I see you added a section that specifically disallows jeans after I posted my comment. We could have saved some time.

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2. epgui+L[view] [source] 2024-12-28 21:04:04
>>david-+(OP)
I thought it was clear from the context and phrasing that "dark-coloured pants" excluded jeans, but in case there was any doubt:

    4.10.1.3. No players with t-shirts, jeans, shorts,
    sneakers, baseball caps or inappropriate dress are allowed
    in the playing area. Any requests to wear national or
    traditional dress shall be approved by FIDE Supervisor.
Reference: https://www.fide.com/docs/regulations/wrbc_regulations_2024_...
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3. david-+K2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-28 21:18:34
>>epgui+L
Thank you, I had missed the section about jeans. I stand corrected.
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4. munch1+H3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-28 21:25:59
>>epgui+L
To a Norwegian reader, blue jeans are definitely included in "pants".

It's entirely possible to read 4.10.1.1, conclude that blue jeans are fine, and then skim over 4.10.1.3.

However the Carlsens read it, after reading it, years will have passed. Carlsen didn't dress like he did after a studious read of the rules. He just put on some nice clothes that were no different from what he usually wears at tournaments.

Except he forgot a belt. A proper organiser would have offered to lend him one.

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5. epgui+Z3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-28 21:28:16
>>munch1+H3
I would assume (but can't know for sure, of course) that Magnus receives the rules before every event, and that he probably has people to help prepare/brief him on anything he needs to know.

He's not a regular participant, Magnus is almost an institution of his own.

Either way, it's literally his job to follow the FIDE rules (which is unusual but true), and he's the best in the world at his job.

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> "It's entirely possible to read 4.10.1.1, conclude that blue jeans are fine, and then skim over 4.10.1.3."

In all fairness I originally did the same, so I hear ya. But I'm not a pro at this.

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6. Random+x6[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-28 21:48:33
>>epgui+Z3
> He's not a regular participant, Magnus is almost an institution of his own.

He is also very much no in agreement with FIDE (a tradition for chess champions - see Fischer, Kasparov). And to be honest FIDE is on FIFA level when it comes to being dodgy as an organisation so it’s hardly surprising.

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7. sdwr+nU[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-29 06:49:52
>>munch1+H3
Presumably after years of coming to these events in dress pants and jackets, around other players all wearing suits, he would know the rules without having to read them. It's not like they changed the rules just to catch him out.

This is some combination of

- "I'm above the law"

- teenage rebellion

- protest against the system

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8. wongar+Cp1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-29 14:16:40
>>epgui+Z3
When you attend a conference, how much time do you dedicate to studying the terms of the event?
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9. jasonj+Fd3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-30 06:32:18
>>sdwr+nU
He's in his 30s
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