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1. graeme+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-12-16 19:26:51
Assuming you regard the cost of keeping and filing accounts and other paperwork, annual registration fees, etc. as negligible yes.
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2. jimnot+sz[view] [source] 2024-12-16 23:18:03
>>graeme+(OP)
Keeping accounts: cost, depends on if you make any money. If you do then you would have to keep accounts even if not a CIC!

Filing accounts: £15. An online form will ask you for your balance sheet summary only unless you are very large.

One off registration:£65

Annual confirmation statement:£34

So depends on your perspective I suppose.

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3. graeme+6D[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-16 23:47:21
>>jimnot+sz
There are plans to remove the small company p & l exemption and new rules on verifying directors ids. Costs are going up too. It looks like a CIC you can only file online if full accounts. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/a...

You have to keep accounts if a business even if not incorporated. A company has to keep accounts if it has any assets (e.g. a domain) or any financial transactions (e.g. paying for hosting)

You will also probably have to file a tax return. You have to keep a register of shareholders.

In fact if definitely not making a profit a standard ltd might be simpler (or maybe a company limited by guarantee) then a CIC as all a CIC does it add restrictions and extra regulation https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7b800640f0b...

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4. jimnot+YD[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-16 23:53:26
>>graeme+6D
>You have to keep accounts if a business even if not incorporated

Indeed, so this cost is not relevant to the decision to set up a CIC or not

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5. graeme+Ts1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-17 10:08:51
>>jimnot+YD
It is relevant this case. The thread is about moving an activity that is not a business to a company (and for some reason a CIC in particular). If you did it in your own name you would not have to keep accounts.
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6. foldr+DK1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-17 13:22:23
>>graeme+Ts1
As jimnotgym explained, you don't have to 'keep accounts' in any onerous sense. You just need to keep a rough track of the business's income and expenses (which any sensible person would be doing anyway). No-one at HMRC is going through the accounts of very small businesses with a fine tooth comb. You just tell them how much money you made and pay the taxes on it.
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7. graeme+YN1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-17 13:53:59
>>foldr+DK1
> You just need to keep a rough track of the business's income and expenses (which any sensible person would be doing anyway

We are not talking about a business here. The whole problem is that these are things that people are doing as essentially voluntary work.

What your saying would be true in a different context, but this is not business. I do not know whether you find it hard to grasp that some people will put a lot of effort into something for motives other than profit.

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8. foldr+6O1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-12-17 13:55:17
>>graeme+YN1
Right, so the 'accounts' are correspondingly simple. Essentially just a list of things the company has purchased.
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