Yeah there are at least two X230's powered on in my home as we speak. To me that was the last good keyboard. I got an X250 and it's not even close. Same with T480… really disappointing. Using the X230 (and X220) is always a pleasure with the solid-feeling keyboard that makes it easy to type accurately on. I mis-position my fingers on the newer keyboards and make typos on them frequently because it's just one big flat surface (or feels as such).