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Virtually all people who have worked and retired at oil and gas companies over the past 40 years had both a company pension AND a 401K. My dad has a paid off house and no bills other than utilities and taxes. He's pulling in over 80K a year in retirement, and he re-invests most of what he's being forced to pull out.

>>Mister+(OP)
But now people working for profitable businesses can do mega backdoor roth contributions and still invest in the same VOO equities that the pension fund manager would invest in, but cut out all of the agency risk and not be tied to their employer.

>>lotsof+7x
Yes, but that's an insanely small minority of people. The average person in my hometown makes $70K a year with overtime and has a $320K house. They're not loading up IRAs. They don't have the money to spare.

>>Mister+uj3
The people getting meaningful DB pensions and 401k are also an insanely small minority, hence them getting it in the oil and gas business, which has fat profit margins, like tech companies.

My point is it’s better for the employee who is getting paid a lot (whether it be oil and gas or tech) to receive their compensation in fully liquid cash they can invest in a broad market index fund, rather than have it be held hostage (see agency risk). Plus the employee maintains more leverage to be able to sell their labor to other employers.