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1. throw_+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-08-27 13:53:42
> Facebook, Instagram, etc. moderating content isn't a free speech issue.

When it's at the demand from the white house, it becomes a free speech issue because it's the executive branch that essentially controls what these big bulletin boards are allowed to publish. Furthermore, nothing is for free, so what perks did these big bulletin boards got in return? maybe that administration decided not to proceed with an antitrust lawsuit as long as they complied, we don't know...

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2. greent+q1[view] [source] 2024-08-27 14:01:12
>>throw_+(OP)
I know this narrative is appealing to people when someone they disagree with is in the white house but it isn't true. If you are a member of a country club and then Biden or Trump (whichever you dislike more) has you kicked out of the country club, it doesn't become a free speech issue due to their involvement. There may be other issues but it isn't a free speech issue. So it is with private platforms which already do all kinds of other moderation.
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3. throw_+N5[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 14:24:11
>>greent+q1
> I know this narrative is appealing to people when someone they disagree with is in the white house but it isn't true. If you are a member of a country club and then Biden or Trump (whichever you dislike more) has you kicked out of the country club, it doesn't become a free speech issue due to their involvement. There may be other issues but it isn't a free speech issue. So it is with private platforms which already do all kinds of other moderation.

"the narrative", who's narrative? Of course it IS a free speech issue when the boss of the country club is the chief of executive branch and being part of the country club is a quid pro quo. Zuck and Dorsey's lackeys back then, they weren't censoring informations unfavorable to democrats or Biden's family for free.

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4. greent+qr[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 16:19:58
>>throw_+N5
Country club membership is not a free speech issue. I thought this was an obvious enough example everyone could understand. But I guess the tech companies have polluted the definition and nobody remembers civics class.
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5. throw_+mO[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 17:58:32
>>greent+qr
> Country club membership is not a free speech issue. I thought this was an obvious enough example everyone could understand. But I guess the tech companies have polluted the definition and nobody remembers civics class.

Then why did you use that example at first place? Zuckerberg doing the white house's bidding in exchange for whatever perks Zuckerberg gets in return aren't a "country club". It isn't a private matter. It's absolutely a constitutional issue and a free speech issue.

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6. alexey+Kh1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-27 20:16:58
>>greent+qr
If the government punishes you for what you say then of course it's a free speech issue, that's the whole point.

It doesn't matter what exact punishment is applied: e.g expulsion from a country club or a fine.

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