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1. grogen+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-08-17 16:40:19
Aah the McDonald excuse again. The favorite pivot of every boing apologist and conspiracy theorist. If only Mac, a completely successful defense contractor, hadn't somehow engineered a completely galaxy brained backdoor purchase of their largest competitor Boeing like a tapewirm because they needed cash after the f112 cancellation they never would have lost that engineering led spirit.

Get over it. Boeing wasn't doing great and has always had struggles. They wanted to get further into defense and kill off a competitor.

Also Wharton came for everyone in the 90s and 00s. If Boeing stayed seperate from the evil Mac they still would have been inmundated by best practice short term bean counters from every MBA school in the country.

Also if you ask a machinist in Seattle or STL if Boeing outsources, they sure do, to those non-union untrained unqualified folks in the south. Nevermind all the moisture that gets into the plane when you wheel a 747 from an air-conditioned warehouse to the southeast sauna. Boeing has always fought with it's union so that wasn't the fault of the Boogeyman either.

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2. klyrs+yc[view] [source] 2024-08-17 18:01:44
>>grogen+(OP)
I was there at the time, so was my mom; quite a few of my friends. The McDonnell merger was the death knell. I'm not saying that everything was rosy and without challenge, but moving corporate to Chicago triggered massive changes throughout the hierarchy. And those changes are now visible as rot and corruption.
3. aeonik+HE[view] [source] 2024-08-17 21:48:25
>>grogen+(OP)
Cold air holds less water than dry, AC is great for drying, also saunas are super dry. Heating up ACed air would be ultra dry.

You mean that the wet rainy Seattle weather combined with jungle like south east make a bad moisture combo, right?

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4. grogen+813[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-19 02:46:07
>>aeonik+HE
take something metal, get it really cold, wheel it out into a steam room or a sauna where someone just poured a bucket of water on the rocks... tons of moisture is gong to condense on the metal, and in all the gaps and tracks inside
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