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1. okasak+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-08-17 15:49:19
It feels like The Economist and other Western oligarch media have been saying that China is going to collapse "next week" for decades. Almost like they have some sort of anti-reality agenda.
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2. jncfhn+21[view] [source] 2024-08-17 15:58:44
>>okasak+(OP)
I can’t find that claim in the article.
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3. mrmeta+s2[view] [source] 2024-08-17 16:09:15
>>okasak+(OP)
I regularly read The Economist and it is not a flawless outlet but it does not and has not attempted to perpetuate any sort of collapse narrative about China. Individual opinion pieces with negative outlooks based on current global market context? Perhaps, but an overarching narrative of collapse just doesn't exist.
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4. pphysc+t2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 16:09:18
>>jncfhn+21
If you look at the aggregate of The Economist's "reporting" on China, the GPs comment is correct.

One could even argue they are a Chinese asset because they mislead Western investors so fantastically and consistently on basic economic topics, a sort of Great Filter.

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5. gruez+d4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-17 16:25:11
>>pphysc+t2
>they mislead Western investors so fantastically and consistently on basic economic topics

???

6. Qwerti+Bj[view] [source] 2024-08-17 18:06:54
>>okasak+(OP)
The reality of China is that their GDP stats are so systematically faked and so clearly don't add up that nobody actually knows whether China is economically healthy, not even Xi Jinping.

In such a scenario, China could collapse at any time, and past performance is not a predictor of future results.

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7. scroll+0q[view] [source] 2024-08-17 18:53:15
>>okasak+(OP)
It's collapsing, just not "nest week"
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8. alephn+101[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-18 00:35:13
>>Qwerti+Bj
> GDP stats are so systematically faked

At a macro-level, Chinese federal statistics are decently trustworthy in the 2020s, and there is enough transnational trade and dealflow that egregious tampering can and would be caught, and is very damaging.

> China could collapse at any time

There is a difference between stagnant/slowing growth (which is what is happening) and "collapse" (nowhere near that level).

Nor would you want to wish a Chinese "collapse".

It's because of rhetoric like yours that other Chinese people automatically dismiss policymakers abroad who are trying to push for reforms for an economically stabler China - which itself requires healthy engagement with the world.

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9. naveen+k81[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-18 02:41:14
>>alephn+101
But who has the guts to call out the emperor has no clothes. No one corrected the covid mortality numbers or even gave any kind of estimate other than the officials numbers out of ccp.
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10. alephn+JO1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-08-18 13:46:39
>>naveen+k81
> But who has the guts to call out the emperor has no clothes

You read the article above right?

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