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1. schnee+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-06-30 15:34:28
The odd thing is I have empathy for him too. It’s actually quite hard for me to talk about this stuff in an accurate enough way to get my point across but convey the nuance I hold too.

I did want to speak to this though

> gave you rails

As I see it Dave released rails, Yehudah gave us GOOD rails, and Raphael gave us functional, stable rails.

That original release wasn’t in a vaccuum either, he had coders at 37 signals.

My post isn’t about being anti-Dave but being pro the-people-who-bleed-rails the ACTUAL maintainers. I would say something like “it’s the difference between a general and boots on the ground soldiers” but, that would imply much more involvement then I actually saw.

It’s like he never gave them (enough) credit, and continued to not give them credit or recognition. That is, until things got so bad with his PR that he felt compelled to make some token gestures. And he’s struggled at those.

The exploitation comment isn’t about the work we did. We did that gladly. The community was better. We didn’t do it for pay, but we did it for something. And it’s not that Dave didn’t want to give us whatever it is we wanted, it’s that he never really cared enough to find out.

Again, it’s hard to convey the feeling through words. I’m grateful for him for the things he’s given me. I’m also wanting to recognize what he’s done to others who have also given me things. I can hold onto both at the same time.

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2. tasuki+TO1[view] [source] 2024-07-01 11:36:55
>>schnee+(OP)
Fair enough
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