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Hotels suck. I want a hotel with no staff. Thats airbnb

>>HDThor+(OP)
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>>HDThor+(OP)
Well, you can always sleep in a tent!

>>HDThor+(OP)
Well, hotels barely have any staff these days, thanks to cost cutting ;)

>>HDThor+(OP)
If people would just rent out their flats when they are not living there that would be fine. But people and corporations buy up housing and put them on Airbnb for above market prices. Suddenly you have no more place to live for the locals who have to work in the city. And a very high priced hotel room for the tourists.

>>HDThor+(OP)
And for me, I value predictability and the availability of staff if I need them. I've certainly stayed at many B&Bs that didn't have a 24-hour desk but, by and large, I'm looking to stay at places where I can count on things going smoothly.

>>popcal+u
Is renting from the landlord precisely what the problem is? Middleman or not, it is an apartment that a normal local person can't use.

>>deutsc+01
The locals problem seems easy to follow but why do tourists continue picking the airbnb style offers if they are so over priced?

>>ghaff+a1
Great. Pick hotels. Why do you need to ban airbnbs? As a user of both the presence of airbnbs gives people a choice and sometimes one is clearly better than the other.

Problem is those who don't use certain services love banning them and pretend they're fixing some unrelated problem.

>>HDThor+(OP)
Nice kitchens, laundry machines in the apartment, comfortable living rooms, access to attached outdoor space, and accommodations for larger parties traveling together are very difficult for hotels to compete with.

>>ghaff+a1
Being able to do laundry makes Airbnb worth it almost every time.

If I have a multi leg journey I'll make sure every other stop is at an Airbnb with a washing machine.

>>isaacr+Z1
I don't think I wrote anything about banning AirBnBs one way or the other. By and large, my feeling is communities/municipalities/etc. should have pretty wide latitude about regulations they enact. And if voters en masse don't like it they'll presumably elect someone to do what they want--though of course that takes time.

>>mattlo+b1
You can't stop the free market. Once it's out of the bag, given a long enough time-frame without volatility (technological innovation/political turbulence/labor/etc.) it always returns to feudalism. Sand aggregates into the form of a pyramid in the absence of winds. So do societies.

>>zamada+J1
Overpriced relative to a long-term rental in the same area.

Airbnb is a nightly rate that competes with hotel pries. Long-term rentals are a monthly rate that is usually much less than the nightly rate of a hotel or Airbnb.

Example: A hotel near my house is about ~$400/night. Or ~$12,000/month. Rent for a 1-bed apartment across the street is about $3000/month.

>>ghaff+a1
For me, 2 nights or less then I look for a hotel. The reliability is important. But more nights, I prefer an AirBnB. I can cook meals, wash clothes, and it just feels more comfortable.

>>jimbok+p2
A suite hotel like a Residence Inn has a lot of that. Doesn't replace a whole house rental at the beach and probably doesn't have as many bedrooms. But it's pretty reasonable for a lot of purposes.

>>popcal+u
They knew. They didn't care. It ended up being a good deal for both groups.

>>isaacr+Z1
It's the locals, not the tourists staying in hotels, that want to ban Airbnbs.

>>deutsc+01
how is this functionally any different from a hotel? Do you complain that new hotel builds take housing away from locals, because presumably that hotel could have been residential housing instead?

>>deutsc+01
Build more housing

>>popcal+Z3
For the love of god, please learn what feudalism actually is. It isn't someone renting out land it is a government structured via a system of sworn allegiances.

>>ghaff+H5
They’re not very common unfortunately