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1. TheAma+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-05-23 18:16:12
I don't know about you, but judging by what Elon says in his social media posts, I'm going to assume that the people who worked with Musk are poor judges of character. Or these same people happen to have a ton of TSLA stock or some other vested interest in Elon, so kissing his ass is good for their bottom line.
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2. ein0p+72[view] [source] 2024-05-23 18:28:38
>>TheAma+(OP)
I don’t care what he says. Last I checked he’s free to say whatever he likes. Attempts to police the speech of others should be no more socially acceptable than farting in a crowded elevator. I care what he actually accomplishes. If his being a little unhinged leads to greater accomplishments, that’s a worthwhile tradeoff in my book.
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3. sander+Hd[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-23 19:23:27
>>ein0p+72
Judging people for their behavior is not "policing the speech of others".

The hilarious thing about this line of reasoning is that I am saying "that thing he said is not acceptable to me" and people like you say "that thing you said about that thing he said is not acceptable to me". The pattern here is "saying X is not acceptable to me", just different values of X. If what I'm doing is policing his speech, and that isn't acceptable to you, then what you're doing is policing my speech, which also shouldn't be acceptable to you.

A paradox? No, not at all, because the resolution of this paradox is just: Nobody here is policing anybody's speech. Everyone is just expressing their own opinions, in a completely normal way.

I'm free to care about how people behave, and not just what they accomplish. And you're free both to not care about that, and also to judge people who do care.

All of these streets go two ways!

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4. ein0p+Xi[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-23 19:57:14
>>sander+Hd
Do you think there’s more to “behavior” than just speech?
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5. sander+vx[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-23 21:22:18
>>ein0p+Xi
Yes.

But I wish you'd made your actual point, instead of asking this vague question. I don't want to guess what point this question is a setup to, but who knows if I'll ever make it back to this thread to find out what point you're going to make.

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