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1. lairv+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-05-23 15:26:46
Genuine question, what's wrong with trying to replicate in real life an idea from a SciFi movie ?

I understand that it could be problematic if OpenAI did one of two things:

- imitated Scarlett Johansson's voice to impersonate her

- misled people into believing that GPT-4o is an official by-product of the film Her, like calling it “the official Her AI”

The first point is still unclear, and that's precisely the point of the article

For the second point, the tweets you posted clearly show that the AI from Her served as an inspiration for creating the GPT-4o model, but not a trademark infringement

Will Matt Damon receive royalties if a guy is ever stuck on Mars ?

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2. jeroje+83[view] [source] 2024-05-23 15:39:24
>>lairv+(OP)
Pretty sure the CEO of OpenAI tweeted "Her." after the reveal of the voice.

Isn't that a suggestion that what they're doing is similar to "the Her AI"?

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3. m_ke+z3[view] [source] 2024-05-23 15:41:27
>>lairv+(OP)
Imagine if Facebook came to you and wanted an exclusive license to white label whatever you work on, then after you rejected them they went and copied most of your code but changed the hue or saturation of some of the colors and shipped it to all of their customers (There's definitely hours of Scarlet Johanssons talking in the dataset that GPT4o was trained on).

Would that be ethical?

EDIT: or even better, imagine how OpenAI would react if some company trained their own model by distilling from GPT4 outputs and then launched a product with it called “ChatGPC”. (They already go after products that have GPT in their name)

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4. qarl+d4[view] [source] 2024-05-23 15:43:57
>>lairv+(OP)
> Genuine question, what's wrong with trying to replicate in real life an idea from a SciFi movie ?

The thing is, there are several cases where a jury found this exact thing to warrant damages.

But honestly, that is irrelevant. The situation here is that OpenAI is facing a TON of criticism for running roughshod over intellectual property rights. They are claiming that we should trust them, they are trying to do the right thing.

But in this case, they're dancing on the edge of right and wrong.

I don't mind when a sleazy company makes "MacDougals" to sell hamburgers. But it's not something to be proud of. And it's definitely not a company that I'd trust.

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5. z7+Oa[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-23 16:13:36
>>jeroje+83
Yes, the unprecedented conversational functionality of the GPT-4o demo could be compared to the AI in the movie. Why assume that the tweet was about the voice sounding like Scarlett Johansson?
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6. lairv+aj[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-23 16:55:56
>>jeroje+83
It's a suggestion that they were inspired by the movie, not that they are releasing a product under the "Her" trademark

It's a movie, not a patent on women voice AI assistants

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7. gs17+Bz[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-23 18:25:47
>>m_ke+z3
> then after you rejected them

The article shows the timeline would make this them already licensing a similar product to your more famous one, then you saying no, and them continuing to use the existing similar one.

> But while many hear an eerie resemblance between “Sky” and Johansson’s “Her” character, an actress was hired to create the Sky voice months before Altman contacted Johansson, according to documents, recordings, casting directors and the actress’s agent.

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8. immibi+AJ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-24 03:33:34
>>m_ke+z3
Facebook does do this, and Google, and Microsoft, and Apple. I believe they call it "Getting Sherlocked."
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