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1. ocdtre+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-05-21 01:14:28
It's not intending to do something legal, it's intending to do something illegal: Stealing their likeness. The fact you used an otherwise legal procedure to do the illegal activity doesn't make it less illegal.
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2. howbad+Z7[view] [source] 2024-05-21 02:31:26
>>ocdtre+(OP)
How can something be illegal if every step towards the objective is legal? This would result in an incoherent legal system where selective prosecution/corruption is trivial.
replies(2): >>ocdtre+z9 >>jcranm+kl
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3. ocdtre+z9[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 02:48:32
>>howbad+Z7
It is legal to buy a gun, and legal to fire a gun, and it can even be legal to fire a gun at someone who is threatening to kill you in the moment, but if you fire a gun at someone with the intention of killing someone that happens to be very, very illegal.
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4. howbad+8c[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 03:13:43
>>ocdtre+z9
Very well. But in this case the end goal is the end of someone's unique life.

In the case of acquiring a likeness, if it's done legally you acquire someone else's likeness that happens to be shared with your target.

The likeness is shared and non-unique.

If you objective is to take someone's life, there is no other pathway to the objective but their life. With likeness that isn't the case.

replies(2): >>kelnos+np >>tivert+yp
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5. jcranm+kl[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 04:47:27
>>howbad+Z7
What's illegal, in general, is not the action itself but the intent to do an action and the steps taken in furtherance of that intent.

Hiring someone with a voice you want isn't illegal; hiring someone with a voice you want because it is similar to a voice that someone expressly denied you permission to use is illegal.

Actually, it's so foundational to the common law legal system that there's a specialized Latin term to represent the concept: mens rea (literally 'guilty mind').

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6. kelnos+np[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 05:27:11
>>howbad+8c
So? You're merely (correctly) pointing out that the acts have consequences that are of wildly differing severity. Not that one is a legal and the other is not.
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7. tivert+yp[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-21 05:29:05
>>howbad+8c
OpenAI should hire you as their lawyer.
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