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1. lupire+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-05-18 21:32:55
Utterly spineless. Do something slimy and act surprised when you get got. Rinse and repeat.
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2. airstr+K3[view] [source] 2024-05-18 22:07:12
>>lupire+(OP)
I don't think that's an accurate read. He did say

>if any former employee who signed one of those old agreements is worried about it, they can contact me and we'll fix that too

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3. insane+u4[view] [source] 2024-05-18 22:16:30
>>lupire+(OP)
<1% chance that Sam did not know what was in those exit docs
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4. 0xDEAF+ea[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-18 23:25:19
>>insane+u4
I've been disparaging Sam and OpenAI a fair amount in this thread, but I find it plausible that Sam didn't know.

I remember a job a few years ago where they sent me employment paperwork that was for a very different position than the one I was hired for. (I ended up signing it anyways after a few minor changes, because I liked it better than the paperwork I expected to see.)

If OpenAI is a "move fast and break things" sort of organization, I expect they're shuffling a lot of paperwork that Sam isn't co-signing on. I doubt Sam's attitude towards paperwork is fundamentally different from yours or mine.

If Sam didn't know, however, that doesn't exactly reflect well on OpenAI. As Jan put it: "Act with gravitas appropriate for what you're building." >>40391412 IMO this incident should underscore Jan's point.

Accidentally silencing ex-employees is not what safety culture looks like at all. They've got to start hiring experts and reading books. It's a long slog ahead.

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5. rglove+cw[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-19 04:28:46
>>airstr+K3
Yes, now that it's public knowledge. Had this not been leaked, that wouldn't have been an option.
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6. insane+wQ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-19 20:00:54
>>0xDEAF+ea
I don’t expect Sam to know every detail as CEO. But this particular clause is very impactful and something that the CEO of a startup would have had to sign off on rather than some underling making the decision on their own.
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