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1. ryandr+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-05-17 23:08:24
Non-disparagement clauses seem so petty and pathetic. Really? Your corporation is so fragile and thin-skinned that it can't even withstand someone saying mean words? What's next? Forbidding ex-employees from sticking their tongue at you and saying "nyaa nyaa nyaa?"
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2. w10-1+I1[view] [source] 2024-05-17 23:24:33
>>ryandr+(OP)
Modern AI companies depend entirely on goodwill and being trusted by their customers.

So yes, they're that fragile.

3. johnny+h3[view] [source] 2024-05-17 23:39:03
>>ryandr+(OP)
Legally yes. Those mean words can cost them millions in lawsuits and billions if the judge rulings restrict how they can implement and monetize AI. Why do you think Boieing's "coincidental" deaths of whistle blowers has happened more than once these past few months?
4. xyst+i8[view] [source] 2024-05-18 00:29:54
>>ryandr+(OP)
The company is literally a house of cards at this point. There is probably so much vulture capitalist and angel investor money tied up in this company that even a disparaging rant could bring the whole company crashing down.

It’s yet another sign that the AI bubble will soon burst. The laughable release of “GPT-4o” was just a small red flag.

Got to keep the soldiers in check while the bean counters prep the books for an IPO and eventual early investor exit.

Almost smells like a SoftBank-esque failure in the near future.

5. ecjhdn+Eh[view] [source] 2024-05-18 02:30:58
>>ryandr+(OP)
This isn't about pettiness or thin skin. And it's not about mean words. It's about potential valid, corroborated criticism of misconduct.

They can totally deal with appearing petty and thin-skinned.

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6. parpfi+3n1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-18 16:45:06
>>ecjhdn+Eh
Wouldnt various whistleblower protections apply if you were reporting illegal activities?
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7. ecjhdn+ON1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-18 20:40:48
>>parpfi+3n1
Honestly I don't know if whistleblower protections are really worth a damn -- I could be wrong.

But would they not only protect the individual formally blowing the whistle (meeting the standard in the relevant law)?

These non-disparagement clauses would have the effect of laying the groundwork for a whistleblowing effort to fall flat, because nobody else will want to corroborate, when the role of journalism in whistleblowing cases is absolutely crucial.

No sensible mature company needs a lifetime non-disparagement clause -- especially not one that claims to have an ethical focus. It's clearly Omerta.

Whoever downvoted this: seriously. I really don't care but you need to explain to people why lifetime non-disparagement clauses are not about maintaining silence. What's the ethical application for them?

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