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1. Aperoc+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-05-17 18:25:37
tbh it smells like they've brought in too much to their own hype.

Nothing OpenAI have done more recently suggest to me that they are closer to the AGI. They did create a bunch of other models with different input format that are probably based off pretty much the same thing. And it looks like those other models will be much more expensive to run and burn up their runway sooner.

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2. ben_w+Tc[view] [source] 2024-05-17 19:56:22
>>Aperoc+(OP)
> AGI

Trouble is, everyone has a different interpretation of those words.

Do you mean they're no closer to "highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work", or do you mean no closer to "a general-purpose machine-learning based system, even if it's only IQ 85", or do you mean no closer to "a conscious and self-aware artificial mind", or do you mean "a super-intelligent system that beats all humans put together"?

> And it looks like those other models will be much more expensive to run and burn up their runway sooner

I thought "runway" was the metaphor for "before take-off"? They've definitely taken off now. If they were burning more money than they bring in, they could've just not lowered the prices.

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3. artnin+Vc[view] [source] 2024-05-17 19:56:29
>>Aperoc+(OP)
Agreed. Honestly gpt4o is a massive disappointment. They made it multimodal, but it seems as dumb as ever reasoning wise. I think it's become pretty clear that we've reached diminishing returns with LLMs and AGI isn't coming. Some of OpenAI have realized this and have moved tool full on productization. That said, I do believe some of the people there have genuinely drunk the kool aid.
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4. Aperoc+Ze[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-17 20:13:56
>>ben_w+Tc
Until they are turning a profit, I would assume they are on a runway.
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5. Aperoc+Uf[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-17 20:20:29
>>artnin+Vc
And it would make sense that the compliance and safety side are the most hyped because only that would justify their continued involvement in the project.
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