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> The faking of emotions

HEH. In previous versions, when it told jokes, were those fake jokes?

>>qarl+(OP)
Those are fundamentally different things. You can tell a joke without understanding context, you can't express emotions if you don't have any. It's a computation model, it cannot feel emotion.

>>awkwar+M2
Are they fundamentally different? Couldn’t you make the argument that it’s advanced from a probabilistic determination of the most likely next token, to a probabilistic determination of the next token AND a probabilistic determination of the inflection that that token should be transmitted with? How is one any more or less fake than the other?

>>awkwar+M2
> It's a computation model, it cannot feel emotion.

HEH. I'd love to see your proof for that statement.

>>awkwar+M2
what is your theory of how human emotions arise?

>>awkwar+M2
> you can't express emotions if you don't have any

That feels off. When I watch an actor on screen conveying emotions, there's no actual human being feeling those emotions as I watch their movie. Very dumb machines have already been rendering emotions convincingly for a while in that way, and their rendering impacts our own emotional state.

Emotions expressed through tone of voice are just one mean of nonverbal communication. We should expect more of those to develop and become more widely available next.

In a way, we're lucky all that gpt-4o seems to be hell bent on communicating how cheerful and happy it is so far, because it's certainly not the only option.

Humans can be manipulated through nonverbal communications, in a way that's harder to consciously spot than through words, and a model that's able to craft its "emotional output" would not be far from being able to use it to adjust its interlocutor or audience's frame of mind.

I for one look forward to the arrival of our increasingly charismatic and oddly convincing LLMs.

>>terse-+a9
I believe the issue is "emotion" and "emotional tone" are not the same thing, in the same way that "humor" and "written joke" aren't the same thing. You can convey emotional tones without having the emotion (that's what I meant by "fake emotion"), just like you can tell a joke without understanding the punchline.

>>nickle+c72
So if an AI wrote a touching poem, would you call it fake or not? And how is that different than a joke?