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1. djohns+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-05-15 15:19:30
I’ve also heard of studies, admittedly I don’t have the link on hand, that schizophrenic patients benefit from smoking. When did big tobacco actively target them? How do you know these people don’t naturally seek out cigarettes as a means to manage some of their symptoms?
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2. nickle+N2[view] [source] 2024-05-15 15:32:15
>>djohns+(OP)
I have schizophrenia. I have struggled with nicotine addiction since high school. In 2015 I had three heart attacks in a month, even though I was only 28 and seemed physically fit. Two weeks ago I had a minor stroke.

It is not just me and it is not just the smoking: https://www.cambridge.org/core/blog/2020/08/19/physically-he...

  We have known for many years that people who suffer from schizophrenia die younger than expected, as much as 20 years younger than the general population. This appears unfair, and it was the inspiration of this work. Most people thought that this added risk of death was mostly due to the higher prevalence in schizophrenia of smoking, obesity and to other lifestyle differences.

  For this reason, we recruited 40 patients with schizophrenia and an equal number of healthy controls, and scanned their hearts using a state-of-the-art approach, called cardiac magnetic resonance. This was performed at the state-of-the-art Robert Steiner MRI unit.

  [...] Surprisingly, in our study we found that even after matching patients and healthy controls for age, sex, ethnicity and body mass index (BMI, deriving from height and weight); and after excluding any participants with any medical conditions, and other risk factors for heart disease, people with schizophrenia show hearts that are smaller and chunkier than controls. These changes are similar to those found in aging.
I was able to move to the gum and patch, but I am very high-functioning. People sicker than me have less options. Smoking is very bad for everyone, including people for schizophrenia. We do not in any way benefit from terrible heart/lung damage in exchange for minor cognitive clarity - our hearts need all they help they can get. I have no tolerance for this sort of ignorant paternalism, and I'm ignoring your bad-faith question about "actively target them" because that's not what I said.
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3. djohns+dt2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-05-16 12:39:46
>>nickle+N2
I didn’t ask for your biography. I asked two simple questions and you failed to answer either of them.
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