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How good or bad is this for OpenAI?

>>ed_mer+(OP)
A few years ago? Probably catastrophic, he was Chief Scientist after all.

Now? Probably not too much, they have enough investment, and additionally talented people wanting to join. I mean, Andrej Karpathy also joined and left OpenAI twice and it didn't impact operations much.

I think OpenAI is now where Google was at or just before its IPO, a few key players leaving isn't going to impact them as much as it would have in its earlier founding days, and there is plenty of talent who are ready to jump in to fill the shoes of anyone who leaves.

>>ed_mer+(OP)
Depends on how tight his non-compete is.

>>lr4444+p1
I think those are illegal now. They have been in California for a long time.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/...

>>ed_mer+(OP)
According to Mr Altman’s tweet (https://twitter.com/sama/status/1790518031640347056) they had not just one but TWO of the greatest minds of this generation.

After this change they will have only one.

>>cjbpri+93
Could still cover him, no idea though.

Via the FTC link:

"Existing noncompetes for senior executives - who represent less than 0.75% of workers - can remain in force under the FTC’s final rule, but employers are banned from entering into or attempting to enforce any new noncompetes, even if they involve senior executives. Employers will be required to provide notice to workers other than senior executives who are bound by an existing noncompete that they will not be enforcing any noncompetes against them."

>>andsoi+kb
Sam Altman's tweet only implies that they had >= 2 greatest minds of this generation, and now they have at least one of this breed of people.

>>brianj+Qd
Doesn’t matter since CA has broader laws anyway

>>lr4444+p1
Non competes are illegal in CA

>>aleph_+He
Two is one and one is none.

Not actually sure how much Ilya was doing in the end, but clearly he did a bit, so it's likely a big a loss whatever way you look at it.

>>ed_mer+(OP)
He is the smartest guy in AI but the sum of OpenAI’s talent is greater than his. But he could easily be the next great advancement in the field.

>>samspe+y
That may be true in term of engineering, but I think everyone had switched to google as their search engine by then. I am not sure openai has captured the market quite in the same way, as I think people are still mostly experimenting with AI, the integration time in any large company is much slower than the rate of progress of AI. And it's not clear to me that there is much of a vendor lockin to use the openai API vs an equivalent competitor.

>>zeroon+Rh
It's constitutional in CA.

>>cm2187+YJ
Its not really obvious quite yet that the current gen AI can make money. I dont know that many people who use it, not yet anyway.

>>ed_mer+(OP)
Ilya hasn’t been working on core models for a while. He’s been focused on superalignment. That’s good for the world. Since OpenAI is leading/closest to AGI, it’s the best place to work on superalignment.