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1. atleas+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-03-02 02:30:29
Sour grapes. This is a power move. Elon wants to be the sole savior of humanity who just so happens to have more power than anyone in history. No coincidence this came out soon after OpenAI announced its partnership with Figure, making them a direct competitor to Tesla Optimus + Xai.
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2. the_op+R2[view] [source] 2024-03-02 03:06:45
>>atleas+(OP)
This is sorta a boring fanfic take. Please show us how you read the materials to establish your conclusion.
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3. xcv123+o6[view] [source] 2024-03-02 03:56:03
>>atleas+(OP)
How did you come to this idiotic conclusion after reading the article?

Elon Musk cofounded OpenAI as a non-profit organization in 2015 and provided the majority of funding until 2020. It wouldn't exist without his funding. Sam Altman lied and now GPT-4 is closed source and is controlled by Microsoft. How does that benefit humanity? OpenAI was meant to be open, sharing their research with all of humanity. Sam Altman is a fucking sociopath, a ruthless scammer. The lawsuit demands that OpenAI releases all of their research and technology to the public. Right now GPT-4 is only enriching Microsoft, the largest tech company on the planet.

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4. atleas+W8[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 04:33:30
>>xcv123+o6
Companies can change from the outset. if they didnt become closed source they couldn't have gotten funding to get the GPU hours needed for GPT-4 or the best talent. If Elon cared about humanity he would open source Grok and Optimus. in fact he only left OpenAI because he wanted to take over to integrate it into Tesla but failed.
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5. atleas+59[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 04:34:57
>>the_op+R2
By materials you mean the filing? the wording of the filing fits the plaintiffs narrative. its the most biased possible source.
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6. justan+Pb[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 05:06:39
>>xcv123+o6
not an idiotic take but an obvious one. Musk is an ego driven individual and its clear he got his ego tangled up with sam if you see him talk about it lately. He makes points like 'im the reason openai exists' or 'openai is my biggest mistake'. Launching xai. This with his severe messiah complex.
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7. xcv123+Yd[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 05:40:27
>>atleas+W8
It is a non-profit organization, not a company. No, legally they cannot just do that. Blatantly illegal. Hence the lawsuit.
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8. atleas+xj[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 06:52:36
>>xcv123+Yd
If its blatantly illegal how come it took so long for someone to file a lawsuit, which happened to come from someone now in direct business competition with them? Wouldn’t the very public switch from non profit to for profit have been investigated and penalized by the US government, in charge of, you know, punishing people and corporations who do illegal things? Do you really believe that Elon Musk is the only moral actor in this situation?
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9. xcv123+1o[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 07:41:20
>>atleas+xj
Because it's way more complicated than that. Just read the fucking article please. It is very well written.
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10. atleas+yo[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 07:47:07
>>xcv123+1o
By the article you mean the filing by the single plaintiff, Elon Musk? The 46 page filing? How would that be an objective view of the facts anyway, it’s one side’s opinion.

Please try to be civil if your aim is to explain. You seem a bit ideologically possessed. Also there are tons of non profits with for profit elements. If what they did was blatantly illegal how come nothing has been done about it until the one guy with personal beef is suing them?

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11. xcv123+ip[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 07:52:42
>>atleas+yo
Sorry I didn't mean to be rude. RTFA is just an internet slang term, no offence intended.

Yes its one side, but you need to start with at least one of the sides, right?

I read all 46 pages. Now waiting for Sam Altman and Microsoft to respond, so I will read theirs.

Ideological? Well I don't like Microsoft, that's for sure. And I don't like the fact that we went from GPT3 being open (in accordance with OpenAI's mission statement) and now GPT4 and subsequent models are fully closed, proprietary to Microsoft, the most powerful ruthless sociopath piece of shit trash tech company on the planet. So yes I am ideological in that sense. Microsoft are not the good guys. I am biased against Microsoft controlling AGI.

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12. xcv123+kq[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 08:02:53
>>atleas+yo
Also in response to:

> If Elon cared about humanity he would open source Grok and Optimus

Is Grok or Optimus using any proprietary algorithms or models at the level of AGI? If they are AGI then yes I agree he should release the algorithms to the public domain. But my understanding is these are using well known already open methods that aren't close to AGI.

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13. the_op+x11[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 15:35:28
>>atleas+59
Can you illuminate how you think about this? The purpose of the filing is to introduce specific fact statements and allegations based on those facts. Bias is implicit. The facts and arguments are open for you to dispute.
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