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I don't even particularly like Musk, but I definitely despise M$ and their comic-book tier villanous shenanigans even more. Here's to hoping M$ gets fucked in this.

>>sensan+(OP)
The mental gymnastics that some tech bro has to go through to like Musk over Microsoft to the point that they still use the 2001 meme of "M$FT" is hilarious.

I know just about everything I could ever need to know about both companies and I have tons, tons of friends who absolutely love and have been at "M$FT" for 5-20 years.

I don't know a single person who likes working at Tesla or SpaceX and I used to live in Austin.

I'm also a literal linux kernel contributor so I don't have any bone in the game for Windows.

Musk is literally spitting right-wing nazi, anti-trans trash all over twitter and using his new news medium as a right wing mind meld tool while unbanning known anti-semites and racists like Kanye and Trump. Cool guy. I guess you might not care about that when you're a middle-class straight white tech bro on hackernews and might think M$FT is the big bad guy because Bill Gates locked you into Internet Explorer and adware 15 years ago.

>>sensan+(OP)
Musk is even more cartoonishly villainous than MS. This is pretty much Lex Luthor against Darkseid. Unless it results in mutual destruction, doesn't matter who wins, everybody else loses.

My take is that Elon is suing OpenAI because he left OpenAI before they opened a commercial venture, which means he doesn't benefit from the companies current valuation, so he's using the courts to try to strong arm the foundation into giving him some shares, basically using the courts for harassment purposes.

I'm hoping for both to get fucked, and if this takes this whole "AI" hype away with them, so much the better.

>>swozey+D
Wow the people employed by the evil gigacorporation like working for the entity shoveling mountains of money at them, what a completely unexpected stance for them to have.

M$ is no different today than they were in the days of their EEE strategy, they've just fooled the techbros, as you put it, into believing they're still not the scum of the earth anymore.

>>swozey+D
Glad you're not a figurative linux kernel contributor

>>Anarch+W1
Yeah that'd be the ideal turn of events, if both M$ and Elon got fucked by this

In my dream world we'd nuke M$ from orbit and splinter it into a trillion tiny little pieces... A man can dream

>>swozey+D
Liking the environment at Microsoft is very different than liking what the company does. I know far more people excited about space x than whatever Microsoft is doing and none uses any Microsoft products whereas tons of them opted into buying a Tesla!

Working at Microsoft is considered easy work whereas it's the opposite for Elon's companies. Doesn't make him a bad person.

>>sensan+Q3
We can nuke it from the self sustaining colonies on Mars established by Musk in 2020...

>>sensan+o2
Microsoft is by far the lowest paying FAANG there is right next to Amazon. You make $150k+ less working at MS than Google, Meta, Apple, Nvidia etc.

Nobody reading HN who works at Microsoft is making killer money.

>>sahila+m6
> Doesn't make him a bad person.

My god. The little apartheid clyde isn't a bad person. Love it. Hows your model 3?

Musk gives us "hard" work. We should love being abused because we get to work on rockets!

Company towns for everyone! Giga, TX!

>>swozey+Ob
I don't understand why you're angry? It's hard to say someone working at Elon's companies are abused; they're talented and could easily quit and get a new job. And Giga is closer to Austin's downtown than Apple's campus in north Austin.

Hope you're well!

>>Anarch+W1
I highly doubt this is the case. The guy has plenty of money, power and clout. There’s really no more for him to gain in those departments. It’s more likely he fears AGI will put humanity into a truly dystopian future if monopolized by a corporation and he wants to ward against that future by ensuring the company is incorporated properly as a nonprofit.

>>sensan+(OP)
Musk is an arrogant psychopath that's unable to find joy or happiness in anyway similar to normal people. But I at least feel that he has a genuine vision of using technology to actually to improve normal people's lives.

>>Anarch+W1
> My take is that Elon is suing OpenAI because he left OpenAI before they opened a commercial venture, which means he doesn't benefit from the companies current valuation

According to the Isaacson book, Sam offered Elon equity in the for-profit arm of OpenAI but he declined. He is clearly motivated by the original mission, i.e. the Open part.

>>sahila+4g
> It's hard to say someone working at Elon's companies are abused;

It's not that hard:

https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/hotbed-for-racist-behavior-j... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Tes... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Diaz_v._Tesla

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/02/tesla-must-face-...

>>bigbil+ni1
We were talking about the white-collar workers as op brought up Microsoft workers to which I'm of the general opinion most swes/pms/others can quickly find a job especially with Tesla and Space X on their resume.

But yes modern corporations can be abusive, but whatever abuses you'll find at Elon's companies will likely also exist at Microsoft, doubt his companies are all that unique in that regard.

>>swozey+D
Is it okay with you if I dislike both Microsoft and Musk?

I don't care if MS employees are the happiest people on the planet. That has nothing to do with why I hate Microsoft. I also don't care too much about some slight 15 years ago. What I hate is the damage they've done and continue to do to software freedom and computing literacy, and the way they continually try to seek monopolies using underhanded tactics.