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1. jp_nc+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-03-01 13:10:24
If he thinks GPT-4 is AGI, Elon should ask a team of GPT-4 bots to design, build and launch his rockets and see how it goes. If “economically valuable work” means creating terrible, wordy blog posts then yeah I guess it’s a risk.
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2. bart_s+D4[view] [source] 2024-03-01 13:47:44
>>jp_nc+(OP)
I don’t think GPT-4 is AGI, but that seems like a foolish idea. An AGI doesn’t need to be hyperproficient at everything, or even anything. Ask a team of any non-aeronautical engineers to build a rocket and it will go poorly. Do those people not qualify as intelligent beings?
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3. blibbl+Bw[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-01 16:35:01
>>bart_s+D4
> Ask a team of any non-aeronautical engineers to build a rocket and it will go poorly. Do those people not qualify as intelligent beings?

I suspect you'd have one person on the team that would say "perhaps you'd be better choosing a team that knows what they're doing"

meanwhile GPT-4 would happily accept and emit BS

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4. Peters+2x[view] [source] 2024-03-01 16:37:03
>>jp_nc+(OP)
You're just highlighting the issue. Nobody can agree on the definition of AGI. The most people would agree that being able to design, build, and launch rockets is definitely _not_ the definition. The fact that M$ has such a stronghold in OpenAI means that they won't declare anything as AGI even if most people would say it is.
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5. spence+qz[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-01 16:48:25
>>bart_s+D4
Outperforming humans does not mean outperforming an average untrained human
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6. ToValu+BL[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-01 17:42:53
>>blibbl+Bw
Have you used GPT-4? I'd criticize it in the opposite direction. It routinely defers to experts on even the simplest questions. If you ask it to tell you how to launch a satellite into orbit, it leads with:

>Launching a satellite into orbit is a complex and challenging process that requires extensive knowledge in aerospace engineering, physics, and regulatory compliance. It's a task typically undertaken by governments or large corporations due to the technical and financial resources required. However, I can give you a high-level overview of the steps involved:

7. Andrex+Ds1[view] [source] 2024-03-01 21:31:38
>>jp_nc+(OP)
Pre and post-AGI might be a line, but AGI at inception will necessarily be less capable than the same AGI tech later in its life.
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8. stubis+1T1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 00:39:00
>>spence+qz
Why does AGI infer outperforming any humans? Half the humans on the planet perform worse than the average human. Does that make them non-intelligent?
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9. spence+zX1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-03-02 01:30:27
>>stubis+1T1
That's the definition given by Sam Altman above
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