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Exactly, the front page is heavily moderated. Almost every day you'll see posts with 50+ upvotes falling of the front page within an hour or two when some article about LISP with < 10 upvotes will remain here for a whole day.

It's disingenuous to blame it on the users when there are clearly other "forces" at play here.

>>bitcha+(OP)
The "force" is actually one or two people. It's hard to prove and impossible to change. No one will believe you, either.

>>bitcha+(OP)
I’m sure the HN codebase has some secret creed to make lisp more popular

>>elpock+n1
If it works..

There are a billion forums with less stringent moderation. Moderation is a very large part that makes HN good and not so game-able like most sites

>>elpock+n1
Could you make your accusation more clearly? Are you saying it's 'dang' and 'pg'? One or two regular users abusing the flagging system? Or a couple dark and shadowy figures who have no public presence?

>>bitcha+(OP)
Yes, HN is a moderated/curated site and always has been. Here's 10 years' worth of me explaining that: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

What people maybe don't realize is how many constraints there are on HN's system. There aren't many degrees of freedom for us to change things that wouldn't lead to a massively different site, and most of those outcomes would be worse, because most of them would be closer to internet default.

It's easy imagine "HN, but without the things that I personally find annoying". But try to generalize that for a moment and the problem quickly becomes intractable.

>>coffee+t3
The code is written in Lisp, but it doesn't know that and has no way (edit: that I know of) to expand its empire.

>>nkurz+Hx
I don't mean to make accusations or invent "shadowy figures". HN has a very small number of moderators and their actions are not transparent, that's all.

>>elpock+jk1
Thanks for clarifying. I think part of my confusion was that HN only has one moderator at this point. Also, I'd probably say "not always obvious" rather than "not transparent". While there is no public record of moderation, at least for me Dan has been excellent about answering questions when asked.

>>nkurz+6o1
Yes. I will use the words you want me to use, and not my own words. Thanks for helping me out.

>>elpock+vq1
I think you've misinterpreted my tone. I was not trying to tell you how to speak, but rather how I view the issue. You are welcome to share your own view.