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1. otikik+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-02-02 12:47:35
I am not a lawyer, but if some deranged individual who follows him takes his comment and face value and murders someone, he will face many consequences.

Firstly, he would be involved on murder. That's not a great experience to have, for most people.

He would at least be on trial. I don't exactly know how incitement to murder is treated in the US.

It could even be considered domestic terrorism (an assassination made to intimidate a group based on an ideological agenda/government policy). Then, I don't know what would happen, exactly. The FBI would probably get involved?

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2. rayine+v5[view] [source] 2024-02-02 13:30:09
>>otikik+(OP)
He wouldn’t be prosecuted. Wishing death on political figures is a cherished American tradition, and well protected under the first amendment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_the_president_of_t...
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3. Amezar+y5[view] [source] 2024-02-02 13:30:26
>>otikik+(OP)
Lawyers and judges have already been consulted and concluded that no crime was committed.

https://missionlocal.org/2024/01/y-combinator-ceo-garry-tans...

This would not change ex post facto because of someone else's actions.

In the US, what he did said is disgusting but legally protected free speech. It's conceivable that he could be opened up to a civil lawsuit, but that's about it.

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4. Kye+Jc[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 14:20:19
>>Amezar+y5
A good video from an actual lawyer on where the legal lines are when it comes to incitement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwqAInN9HWI
5. slibhb+Qd[view] [source] 2024-02-02 14:26:03
>>otikik+(OP)
> He would at least be on trial. I don't exactly know how incitement to murder is treated in the US.

That's very clear!

In no way is "die slow motherfucker" incitement to murder, whether or not the person is question is actually murdered.

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6. JohnFe+9y[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 15:57:34
>>rayine+v5
> Wishing death on political figures is a cherished American tradition

It's a strange sort of "cherished American tradition" that is so subtle that I, as a native American more than a half-century old, have never even heard of it being a tradition before.

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7. ilikeh+sK[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 16:45:46
>>JohnFe+9y
There’s a link in the comment you’re replying citing a 1969 Supreme Court case about this very type of situation.

Yes Americans have cherished a very liberal/free definition of free speech rights.

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8. JohnFe+ea1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 18:39:18
>>ilikeh+sK
> Americans have cherished a very liberal/free definition of free speech rights.

Absolutely. That wasn't what I was questioning. What I'm questioning is the proposition that wishing death on people is a "cherished American tradition". I don't think it is.

The American tradition is to be very permissive about how far speech can go before it becomes illegal. That's a very different thing.

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