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1. jstumm+(OP)[view] [source] 2024-02-01 20:56:41
I have absolutely no idea how that number relates to any comparable operation. Can anyone add a banana for scale?
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2. adgjls+I[view] [source] 2024-02-01 21:00:08
>>jstumm+(OP)
10 minutes of 4k video is ~30GB.
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3. jstumm+41[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:03:09
>>adgjls+I
Knowing the size of a video file is exactly not the information, that would help me put this number in a meaningful perspective with any comparable operation.

How do I think of 42 petabytes in terms of an ISP? Is that a lot? How does it compare to other satellite providers? How does it compare to 4G capacities? Is this a small country worth of traffic or just any ol' data center? I have no intuition about traffic at this scale.

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4. colord+j1[view] [source] 2024-02-01 21:04:00
>>jstumm+(OP)
If you've got a laptop with a terrabyte drive, it would be 42,000 full laptops worth of data.
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5. therop+w1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:05:09
>>jstumm+41
42 million gigabytes per day, or if we are working with 30GB for 10min of 4k movies - 233,000 hours of ultra HD movies per day
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6. deatha+x2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:10:09
>>therop+w1
It's 42 PB per day, though.
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7. besnn0+E2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:10:44
>>therop+w1
per day*
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8. e12e+L2[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:11:20
>>therop+w1
> 42 million gigabytes per second

Per day?

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9. bee_ri+c3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:13:59
>>colord+j1
Implementing a “comparable operation” to this satellite network using laptops instead is going to be really expensive fuel-wise, I think.
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10. whycom+h3[view] [source] 2024-02-01 21:14:55
>>jstumm+(OP)
> If you took a petabyte's worth of 1GB flash drives and lined them up end to end, they would stretch over 92 football fields.

https://info.cobaltiron.com/blog/petabyte-how-much-informati...

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11. WheatM+B3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:15:59
>>therop+w1
Over estimating by a factor of 86,400.
12. permal+K3[view] [source] 2024-02-01 21:17:17
>>jstumm+(OP)
EMBL-EBI’s open transfer systems provide ~5PB of data each month.

ftp.ebi.ac.uk for example.

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13. SirMas+L3[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:17:19
>>adgjls+I
I feel like this is a bad example.

Most people's experience with 4K video is through a streaming service, and 10 minutes of 4K video on a streaming service is more like 1-1.5 GB.

Or a UHD Disc perhaps where 10 minutes is 3.5-7 GB.

14. stcred+X3[view] [source] 2024-02-01 21:18:38
>>jstumm+(OP)
Better yet, a work in a 35 foot long Twinkie.
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15. organs+d4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:20:12
>>whycom+h3
That's actually a somewhat useful visual.
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16. new_us+C4[view] [source] 2024-02-01 21:22:09
>>jstumm+(OP)
Bangladesh, the whole country, usage 2,300Gbps as of 2021. So 1 Petabyte per hour?

Edit: It's international traffic. YouTube, Facebook video has local cache server by ISP.

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17. MeImCo+G4[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:22:45
>>therop+w1
I still dont think this is what the OP was asking for. This is in the context of an individual-HD video is an individual perspective. More helpful would be a comparison to say a small town or a major city or state.
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18. jonath+h5[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:26:44
>>bee_ri+c3
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."

-- Andrew Tannenbaum

19. thetea+W5[view] [source] 2024-02-01 21:30:51
>>jstumm+(OP)
486GB/s
20. nharad+q6[view] [source] 2024-02-01 21:33:21
>>jstumm+(OP)
Assuming it's a constant data transfer rate, this is 3,889 Gbps. This is

- About 4,000 customers worth of maxed out Gigabit internet

- ~243,000 simultaneous Netflix 4K streams

- 1.6% the capacity of the latest BlueMed undersea fiber cable

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21. MeImCo+y6[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:33:57
>>new_us+C4
This is a useful scale of comparison and what I think OP was after
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22. viking+oa[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 21:55:39
>>organs+d4
Not really unless you're using 1 GB flash drives from fifteen years ago. 256 GB is now common, which would make that petabyte less than 1 football field. (It's only 4096 such drives.)
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23. jstumm+Ic[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 22:09:23
>>MeImCo+y6
OP agrees
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24. dtgris+8d[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 22:12:32
>>viking+oa
You can buy a 1TB microSD card for $150 now.
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25. danpar+ef[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 22:25:55
>>dtgris+8d
What a time to be alive! Even those of us without a football field can lay out huge amounts of data in a straight line.
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26. tempma+el[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 22:54:10
>>danpar+ef
dang I can hear the youtube channel voice
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27. ziddoa+Yn[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-01 23:11:21
>>viking+oa
>Not really unless you're using 1 GB flash drives from fifteen years ago

1GB flash drives are still 1GB today.

>256 GB is now common, which would make that petabyte less than 1 football field. (It's only 4096 such drives.)

If we're completely changing what we're using for scale, you can fit a petabyte on ~10 100TB drives, which is like 3% the length of an olympic swimming pool.

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28. madeof+pv[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 00:06:39
>>colord+j1
If you have a laptop with a petabyte drive, it would be 42 full laptops worth of data!
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29. zetsur+vx[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 00:26:38
>>adgjls+I
Based on 2160p movies i've seen around the very largest max out at around 100, and 40 is more common, so this seems wrong.
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30. Thaxll+Ay[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 00:37:59
>>zetsur+vx
We're not talking pirated movie here, think Netflix and Youtube.
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31. danbru+ED[view] [source] 2024-02-02 01:26:19
>>jstumm+(OP)
According to a quick search the average US household is closing in on 600 GB of traffic per month, that makes 42 PB per day the internet traffic of 2.1 million households. Incidentally the second picture in the article says 2.3M+ customers. With an US average of 2.5 people per household that is the traffic of 5 million people or 1.5 % of the US population.
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32. cayman+GD[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 01:26:41
>>Thaxll+Ay
Netflix and Youtube streams are less GB/hour than a typical movie rip. Roughly 3GB/hour at 720p and 8GB/hour at 4K. A decent-quality pirated 4K movie is more like 20GB/hour. A high-quality rip is 40GB/hour.
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33. NooneA+hQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 03:22:43
>>viking+oa
...how large is a football field?

is it supposed to be actual football one or the field for handegg?

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34. colord+ZS[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 03:47:37
>>madeof+pv
Might as well get a 42 petabyte drive.
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35. aidenn+le1[view] [source] [discussion] 2024-02-02 07:29:59
>>NooneA+hQ
American Gridiron football, though Rugby League and Rugby Union (two other forms of football) use similar length fields/pitches. An Association Football pitch is almost always longer than a Gridiron field, depending on how you measure (it is typical to exclude the end-zones when measuring a Gridiron field, and while Rugby and Gridiron football have a playable area behind the goal (or try) line, Association Football does not.

As a side-note Canadian Gridiron football uses a longer field than American Gridiron football, though (measuring between the goal lines) still slightly shorter than a typical Association Football pitch.

Australian Rules Football is on a field typically longer even than an Association Football pitch, though I don't believe there is a regulation limiting the size.

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