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I was always pro-environment and pro-more-industry-regulations, since I can think. Then came Greta and the doomsayers. Realising there is really nothing more I can do--I am already walking to work and don't even own a car--I stopped supporting apocalypse-loving-movements and went back to living my life as I used to do.

I was developed an aversion for the climate apocalypse movement since. I wonder, if they managed to alienate people without a car and very low CO2 footprint, what demographic is actually left to cater to?

BTW, this phenomenon is very old. Thausands of years ago, religious nuts already announced the end of the world. Soem religious movements like the 7th day adventists even were born out of a failed waiting for the end. That was, IIRC, in the 19th century, at a time when people didn't even know what polution will be.

We have a built-in tendency to predict our own downfall. A sort of built-in mental illness that needs to be worked against.

>>lynx23+(OP)
I'm the same. I'm a quiet greenish person. I don't own a car I walk and I hate these death cults whose sole nihilism is that you shouldn't exist, you were born into Original Sin™ for being the wrong sex/gender/race/country, and when you aren't busy killing off things you enjoy, you yourself can only be green when you die. The logistical thing to these cults is suicide to prevent global warming, so they mentally circle the drain constantly.

>>lynx23+(OP)
Quoting myself (again) >>36619271 :

- There's no climate change

- Climate change is okay and has no impact

- Climate change exists but it's due to natural causes

- Climate change exists but it's due to natural causes and its impacts are small

- Climate change exists but its impacts are good for us

- Climate change exists but we will adapt

- Climate change exists and its the activists' fault we didn't act because they scared us with their doomsday predictions <- you are here

- Climate change exists and we shouldn't talk about it because it's scary and scared people are not productive members of society

>>graphe+u5
> you were born into Original Sin™ for being the wrong sex/gender/race/country

Which world do you live in? It can’t be Earth. Go outside and talk to people and please realize spending all your time online is bad for your health. What you’ve described here doesn’t exist.

>>johnch+2b
To me he is more like: Climate change exists but we will adapt.

>>latent+1D
I'm not part of them. But they do exist. Original Sin ™ is a powerful concept, for example see the eagle and the condor prophecy, a radical lefist group that seeks to use south Americans as leverage, taking selfies with them at the border and luring them north. https://blog.pachamama.org/the-eagle-and-the-condor-prophecy

https://preprints.apsanet.org/engage/api-gateway/apsa/assets...

The rise of asylum seekers is due to this cult which believes in many of these sins. I am just as alarmed that it exists. They are the same political activists who failed to stop the pipeline have put their efforts here. Those caravans are NOT organic.

>>guil17+mD
Nah,

> I wonder, if they managed to alienate people without a car and very low CO2 footprint, what demographic is actually left to cater to?

With climate deniers and conspiracists I always suppose they hide their real stance and it is revealed through small hints they let out. I strongly believe these small hints are baits to see if the other party has the same beliefs. They will be lying until they think there are in like-minded company (or are too drunk and let it out).

Yeah, I have been burned hard before by climate and covid deniers who lied right out to my face. They are dishonest and advance in disguise (with loaded questions and fake scepticism and the whole arsenal of arguments coming from fabricated doubt factories).

>>johnch+2b
Your list of deniers seems to have a majority of non-deniers. What is your point?

>>hkon+Vz2
It's a process.

>>graphe+u5
Well said, and more eloquent then I could be.